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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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I have a B18C into my 92 cx civic now and i am thinking about selling my cx with the motor and getting a 92 si for 2500 and putting a H22 in it. Do u think i sould keep the B18C and build it after selling my cx without the motor or do u think i should sell the car with the B18C and buy a H22 for my new 92 si? What do u think is better a B18C or H22. is putting a H22 in a 92 civic harder to do?, i know it would cost me less. IF so then please help and tell me what i need to get and do to swap it. Thanks.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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I'd personally say stick with the B18C1. Is there any particular reason you want to get rid of it? I was always happy with mine.

H22A swaps are more diffucult, they require a custom mount kit, you have to cut off the upper tranny mount, require custom axles and you need a rather pricey shift linkage mounting plate (Preludes use cable shift linkage as opposed to Civic's rod linkage). I don't know if it's cheaper or not but I wouldn't really think so, not by a large margin at least.
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 02:50 AM
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keep on the b18 road, they are lighter and more tunable than the h22.
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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hey id go with what ever you think will be fun or a bitch to do
I know 2 people with hatches...one with an H22a with a couple of bolt ons, and one with a B18C type R....with basically the same bolt ons....err...H22 wins ever single race lol the h22 hatch spanked a WRX (NOT STI) the other day...it was auto though...but still... it won



lol as for the H22 being heavier...it is...by only like what...75 pounds?i honestly i dont see any reason what so ever why they say that the H22 is too heavy...75 pounds doesnt even take like what 1/100 of a second? or was it 1/10 of a sec from u slips...so yeah....thats just my .02
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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what kinda foo are you... autos are always faster for turbo cars
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by brokeazzcrx
what kinda foo are you... autos are always faster for turbo cars
if i were you, i wouldnt talk ever again for saying something so stupid. if it were true what you just said, then everyone involved with professional drag racing must be wrong, you idiot
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by raiden571
if i were you, i wouldnt talk ever again for saying something so stupid. if it were true what you just said, then everyone involved with professional drag racing must be wrong, you idiot
Actually he's right, with an automatic, you never lift off the throttle so the turbo is never interupted. Also, when you reach a high enough horsepower level, the clutch has to be so powerful, it's basically an on/off switch that can't be slipped so it's worthless on the street and very hard to launch properly and consistantly. Automatic's are superior in these situations and a lot of professional non-import racers use a 2-speed automatic called a powerglide in sub 8 second cars. The reason most import racers use manual's is that Honda automatics aren't designed for and thus can't survive 600-700 hp being slammed through them. In reality, if it could survive the rigors of drag racing, an automatic car would be faster and more consistant than a manual.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Actually he's right, with an automatic, you never lift off the throttle so the turbo is never interupted. Also, when you reach a high enough horsepower level, the clutch has to be so powerful, it's basically an on/off switch that can't be slipped so it's worthless on the street and very hard to launch properly and consistantly. Automatic's are superior in these situations and a lot of professional non-import racers use a 2-speed automatic called a powerglide in sub 8 second cars. The reason most import racers use manual's is that Honda automatics aren't designed for and thus can't survive 600-700 hp being slammed through them. In reality, if it could survive the rigors of drag racing, an automatic car would be faster and more consistant than a manual.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Actually he's right, with an automatic, you never lift off the throttle so the turbo is never interupted. Also, when you reach a high enough horsepower level, the clutch has to be so powerful, it's basically an on/off switch that can't be slipped so it's worthless on the street and very hard to launch properly and consistantly. Automatic's are superior in these situations and a lot of professional non-import racers use a 2-speed automatic called a powerglide in sub 8 second cars. The reason most import racers use manual's is that Honda automatics aren't designed for and thus can't survive 600-700 hp being slammed through them. In reality, if it could survive the rigors of drag racing, an automatic car would be faster and more consistant than a manual.
While this is true, it doesn't stand to reason that this advantage (although it often does in high output cars) always overcomes the inherent drivetrain loss of automatic transmissions. Moreover, in mild turbo cars (like a stock wrx, the example given), it usually isn't enough. wrx's, saabs, mr2t's, and a number of low output turbo cars are faster in manual trim. Its only when you start making a lot of power and using large turbos do the advantages of continued spool-up outweigh the dissadvantages of drivetrain loss and slower shifting. Of course, for cars like pro-street domestics and 700hp supras, yes, automatics are generally the way to go.

Either way, brokeazz's initial statement was a shortsighed and over-simplified hfawk:

:edit: as was raiden's h:
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Old May 3, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by raiden571
if i were you, i wouldnt talk ever again for saying something so stupid. if it were true what you just said, then everyone involved with professional drag racing must be wrong, you idiot

Perhaps you should research that post he made.
He is in fact right on that.

Takes less time for the Turbo to spool up since your not shifting.
The computer shifts quicker than if you had a manual transmission.
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