g'day fellow ITR owners,

i have 01 DC2 ITR.

while i love rev matching theres one problem, on the braking down shift i cant seem to get the heel and toe technique down.

I have a size 13 shoe, so small feet isnt a problem. Ive noticed that the gas pedal isnt exactly at the same height as the brake in nuetral mode.

So my problem is that when Im braking and looking to rev match on the down shift, i really have to brake harder than i'd like to inorder to get a good clean rev match with the gas pedal. But even then this is difficuilt.

So am i doing anything wrong, do you guys have some tips or are the pedal set ups not very good for rev matching and would an aftermarket pedal set do a better job.

Heel and toeing is rather new to me, so any tips perfecting this in an ITR with OEM pedal setup, i would appreciate it.

PS, and im not talking about rev matching at 3-40000 rpm, i do mean HIGH rev matching. just incase you thought i was a freak rev matching and hill and toeing every chance i get.

 

Mugen pedals are better for heal/toe compared to stock pedals. Personally I stopped trying, it wasn't worth the effort imo. Now I just brake at my braking point, clutch in, shift to the gear I need, trail brake, off brake, off clutch/on gas and accelerate.

but that's just me.

 

cheers mate,

i also think to agree thats its not becoming worth it.

too much hastle.

 

i also just brake a bit, put the car in gear and break whats needed left, then press on the gas once i need to speed back up... works just fine...

 

I find the Type R fairly easy to heel toe.. although I practiced a lot in my civic first.. I have no idea if I'm doing it right but it feels good!

 

do you have to brake hard to beable to get enough flex on the throttle to make an effective H&T??

Just curious, what size shoes do you have.....perhaps if their smaller than mine, maybe you have more room for movement which makes it easier..i dunno!

 

You'll find that it's what a lot of people are doing, even Honda Challenge people.

 

George, just curious, at FATT the guy giving the instructional sessions in the classroom said for fwd cars, don't bother heel-toeing, that it doesn't help anything. Bryan also told me that he doesn't do that, and for the most part at Summit, I didn't. Why is this the case? When I heel-toe, the downshift is much smoother, but does it make it any easier on the transmission? Or is this something I should ask Bryan....heh heh heh, j/k.

 

It does help the clutch and gearbox longevity to rev match when downshifting.

However, having said that, I can't think of an H2 driver who does it in a race. I don't do it, and Bryan doesn't do it.

I can put on a grand show doing the cloverleafs like Unkefer and Spencer will tell you, but then it all disappears when I go out on track.

Hey, I never claimed to be good.

 

Yeah.. if you're good at it, it can help gearbox and clutch longevity.. but for the street, it's not gonna make much difference.. especially in a Honda. My shoe size is 14, but it doesn't make that much difference because it's more of a rolling motion to the side.