Dart Block Or Sleeves
08-07-2005, 02:52 PM
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Dart Block Or Sleeves
hey i had plans of bulding a dart block with a type r head for turbo but when i posted about this earlier i was told not to go with the type r head due to the fact its not good for turbo... i was also told go with sleeves i just want some more opions and suggestions i want to make big power but stay reliable for a daily driver currently running a b18b1 ls with drag t3t4 turbo in by 97 ek let me know what you guys think
08-07-2005, 07:35 PM
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well if you want to go ls/vtec then get a b16a head. It's cheaper then the b18c5.
Nothing against dart they are a great company but golden eagle has some awesome prices on sleeves. I just paid $759 for my b18c sleeves.
Nothing against dart they are a great company but golden eagle has some awesome prices on sleeves. I just paid $759 for my b18c sleeves.
08-09-2005, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by :snoopy:
like i said earlier, you can buy a bare dart block for ~$2k or spend a little more and buy a fully assembled shortblock.
this is what i was looking at and i know its a lil expensive but i think over all its not taht bad is it???
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...e=STRK:MEWA:IT
08-09-2005, 03:52 PM
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hmm type r head is best for turbo espically there cams.. i know from building them personally .. whoever told u type r head sucks need to do more major work .. they flow the best out of all the b-series vtec head
08-09-2005, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ValleySyder
hmm type r head is best for turbo espically there cams.. i know from building them personally .. whoever told u type r head sucks need to do more major work .. they flow the best out of all the b-series vtec head
08-09-2005, 07:29 PM
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Holley shit, sorry. Yeah I wouln't pay that much for a head.
Find a used c5 head for about $650. Or buy a b16a head for about $350 and then buy ctr cams, they are better then itr cams for boost.
BTW ctr > itr >gsr > si.
Unless your going for peak hp out of your set-up and money isn't an issue I would just go with a b16a head w/ gsr cams
Find a used c5 head for about $650. Or buy a b16a head for about $350 and then buy ctr cams, they are better then itr cams for boost.
BTW ctr > itr >gsr > si.
Unless your going for peak hp out of your set-up and money isn't an issue I would just go with a b16a head w/ gsr cams
08-12-2005, 01:16 PM
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I dont see why you would use a stock head on such a built block. I would pick up a gsr head. If you build that head up, it will outflow a b16 and b18c5 head with the same modifications. *remember, a b18c5 head is a b16 with a port/polish + upgraded internals.
08-12-2005, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulll
I dont see why you would use a stock head on such a built block. I would pick up a gsr head. If you build that head up, it will outflow a b16 and b18c5 head with the same modifications. *remember, a b18c5 head is a b16 with a port/polish + upgraded internals.
More then enough streetable hp has been made running stock heads. I'll be running a fully built bottom end with a stock head once my engine is back from the the machine shop. I'll be making more then enough streetable power. Don't get me wrong though if you have the money burning a hole in your pocket and nothing else to buy, by all means build your head. But I for one have other things to buy first, such as a cage and traction bars.
......it all comes down to money allocation