Nobody's babbling here, what you are saying is wrong. Seriously do you know what detonation is guy? I don't think posting a quote from somebody else makes your theory correct either. Try again, maybe enlighten me by explaining detonation then go into why octane is somehow changed or made less effective by oil vapors....Please use details and explain yourself instead of using someone else's quotes.

 

I recommend you do some research (i.e., search) regarding this topic before you try to tell people how their setups work or give advice on making them better. The spread of misinformation (like what you're doing nere and now) is a huge reason why honda owners get such a bad rap: they blow their motors by listening to all the things "they've heard" on the internet or elsewhere. In regards to my first quote, if you haven't yet heard of Endyn, you probably haven't been in the honda modification field for long.

I have no idea what detonation is, it's not like I tune other people's cars professionally or anything like that.

Oh wait, yes I do. Here's the last car I tuned (I'll give you a hint: its owned by a respected, long-time member of this board):

91 octane pump gas.

Do you understand what an octane rating is? Its a fuel's ability to resist ignition. Here's where you can really learn about detonation

I'll give you a hint: oil vapors have a lot lower octane rating than fuel. What happens if you mix a lower octane combustible with a higher octane combustible? Say, for example, you decide to mix in 1/2 a tank of 87 octane fuel into your gas tank whish is 1/2 full of c16? The final octane rating of the mixture is significantly lowered.

Boosted Hybrid (Jeff Evans of Evans Tuning) is one of the nation's best EFI tuners.... here's his description of the typical catchcan system (taken from here):

 

I don't have any problem with members arguing and contending ideas in this forum. It's much more educational because it forces people to think rather than just taking what's said as gospel and becoming a little Honda zergling.


However, the difference between debating what someone has said and being a jackass is how you word what you say. That being said, lets try and keep it friendly and intelligent in here.

 

errrr... I didn´t remove it, I removed the coolant passage near that tube. Read carefully please.

Servion thanks again for some great explanations, and you´re right it's very easy to get the wrong info on the net.. and so hard to get the right info

So from my understanding best setup for max. engine (on NA and turbo) is a filter for the head cover and a catch can for the locations on the engine block.

bubye

 

The wrong info is from Servion.

 

Why, thank you for the kind compliments hondatech

I suggest that you either post some real-world evidence or at least a solid argument to attempt to prove your point.

 

I guess working on cars at a dealership level for years isn't "real world exprience"

 

I believe he said evidence not experience.


And, for future reference, quoting others is good. Showing another person's argument is also good. It shows that other people think the same way you do.

 

I can read thanks, in all my experience(which is vast) I have never seen it happen. And I do not agree with you on quoting others, just because another person agrees or disagrees doesn't mean you are correct or incorrect.Also unrelated dyne sheets and "name dropping" doesn't make you correct either.
I still have not and suspect WILL not ever see prove of his theory that oil vapors will cause detonation.

this is his example:Oil vapors are not fuel so they have no octane rating, 87 octane fuel burns faster not slower if you were to add oil vapors to the mixture (oil has an extremely low flash point) and if it were to affect the octane it would burn slower and no detonation would occur.

 

Octane reflects a fuel's resistance to ignition. 93 octane is harder to ignite than 87, that's why it is used in high compression engines.

You also directly contradicted yourself in your post. Oil has a low flash point, and thus would tend to ignite in the cylinder before the spark plug fires. Behold, detonation.