ls or b16??????
Originally Posted by DRfrank
i would think that you'd use old prelude b20 parts from the 2.0Si :eh:
Originally Posted by DRfrank
whats the difference?
90-91 (OBD-0) B18A1 parts are definately what to use.
Once upon a time, there actually was a business that fitted DOHC VTEC heads to those blocks, but they're long gone.
Originally Posted by DRfrank
i would think that you'd use old prelude b20 parts from the 2.0Si :eh:
what i really think this kid should do is find a way to retrofit the AWD drivetrain from a CR-V to his civic, of course it would all have to be upgraded due to how small the rear end on that drivetrain is... or meh.. reverse the damn thing and put the front side on the rear somehow, that way you got a RWDriver with a lil power up front to help with corners. .... ahhh... dreams
what i really think this kid should do is find a way to retrofit the AWD drivetrain from a CR-V to his civic, of course it would all have to be upgraded due to how small the rear end on that drivetrain is... or meh.. reverse the damn thing and put the front side on the rear somehow, that way you got a RWDriver with a lil power up front to help with corners. .... ahhh... dreams
its been done, actually i saw this crx with ah AWD drivetrain from a one of those oldschool civic wagon things..wagovan or whatever..but anyways it had the awd and a turbo gsr swapped into it. maybe i can find a link somewhere...
Less horsepower then the B16A, yes. Once the swap is done and B18A/B manifolds are mounted, it will make a touch more horsepower then the B18A/B.
The trick is in the torque. It destroys the B16A and has a heathly margin over the B18A/B when torque is considered.
The trick is in the torque. It destroys the B16A and has a heathly margin over the B18A/B when torque is considered.
brail auto has a AWD integra....it is a huge waste of time. you also have to remove the factory fuel tank. and well over 200hours labor.
the B20A from old preludes have a 95mm stroke which is really long. piston speed is rediculous with anything above factory redline
the B20A from old preludes have a 95mm stroke which is really long. piston speed is rediculous with anything above factory redline
If you are thinking with money involved(which we all are)... here is my opinion:
First of all what are you goals? I'm sure that they are pretty high up there. A b20b or b20z swap is gonna be fun, but things to take into consideration... You have to peice the entire kit together, if you want a good short tranny, it is gonna kill the engine with high revs on the freeway, and you are gonna want to rebuild the block and make it vtec capable eventually... so that IMO rules out doing b20 at first..
Second choice you can make, is a full LS swap. You will have good torque and it's gonna be fun also, but you will want to slap a vtec head on it eventually, and if you want that done right you will rebuild it stronger also. Second bad thing, you have a shitty tranny for NA with the LS swap.
Third choice and the best choice IMO, the B16. Its gonna be pretty cheap upfront cost wise, You will have the head that you want, and the tranny that you want also. You can sport that around, and it'll be fun as hell. While you beat the shit outta that, you can pick up a spare b20b/z block or a b18 block, build it up, and have it ready to swap in at a later date. You'll already have a good head, tranny, and all the other vtec wiring taken care of. It's the smartest move financially and will result in the fastest car for the least amount of money in the end..
Just some things to consider..... and obviously this is all bias cause I got a b16 hatch (I love it btw)
First of all what are you goals? I'm sure that they are pretty high up there. A b20b or b20z swap is gonna be fun, but things to take into consideration... You have to peice the entire kit together, if you want a good short tranny, it is gonna kill the engine with high revs on the freeway, and you are gonna want to rebuild the block and make it vtec capable eventually... so that IMO rules out doing b20 at first..
Second choice you can make, is a full LS swap. You will have good torque and it's gonna be fun also, but you will want to slap a vtec head on it eventually, and if you want that done right you will rebuild it stronger also. Second bad thing, you have a shitty tranny for NA with the LS swap.
Third choice and the best choice IMO, the B16. Its gonna be pretty cheap upfront cost wise, You will have the head that you want, and the tranny that you want also. You can sport that around, and it'll be fun as hell. While you beat the shit outta that, you can pick up a spare b20b/z block or a b18 block, build it up, and have it ready to swap in at a later date. You'll already have a good head, tranny, and all the other vtec wiring taken care of. It's the smartest move financially and will result in the fastest car for the least amount of money in the end..
Just some things to consider..... and obviously this is all bias cause I got a b16 hatch (I love it btw)


