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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 01:02 AM
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Default Dual set up on I-4 Accord

Hey guys, id figure that i would give my question a shot down here. Im currently transplanting a TL-S muffler on my I-4 accord that already has a greddy evo catback, which has 2.25" piping. I was planning to chop the piping near the rear axle back and have a shop weld and pipe a y-pipe for a dual TL-S set up. My question is....what size piping should i have leading to the mufflers? Some people have done 2.0", but ive heard people telling me that i should use 1.25" to accomadate both mufflers. I understand the ideal piping diameter for the accord is a 2.25" with a single muffler. Anyone know what size pipe i need to use for a dual to the mufflers? (for best performance/ minimal power loss)

EDIT: This may help...(from past thread)
The astute exhaust designer knows that you must balance flow capacity with velocity. You want the exhaust gases to exit the chamber and speed along at the highest velocity possible - you want a FAST exhaust stream. If you have two exhaust pulses of equal volume, one in a 2" pipe and one in a 3" pipe, the pulse in the 2" pipe will be traveling considerably FASTER than the pulse in the 3" pipe. While it is true that the narrower the pipe, the higher the velocity of the exiting gases, you want make sure the pipe is wide enough so that there is as little backpressure as possible while maintaining suitable exhaust gas velocity. Backpressure in it's most extreme form can lead to reversion of the exhaust stream - that is to say the exhaust flows backwards, which is not good. The trick is to have a pipe that that is as narrow as possible while having as close to zero backpressure as possible at the RPM range you want your power band to be located at. Exhaust pipe diameters are best suited to a particular RPM range. A smaller pipe diameter will produce higher exhaust velocities at a lower RPM but create unacceptably high amounts of backpressure at high rpm. Thus if your powerband is located 2-3000 RPM you'd want a narrower pipe than if your powerband is located at 8-9000RPM.
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 06:05 AM
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best performance = no dual exhaust for your 4 cylinder.
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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Don't waste your money bro.
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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I'm going to do it either way. I'm tired of the loud greddy and wwant something quiet, stock looking, yet nice. Please provide me with some helpful input. thanks.
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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You need dual exhaust to accomplish that?
Dual is a waste of money and extra weight you don't need, a y-pipe doesn't help flow either.
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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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ok....is anyone going to actually give me some helpful advice here? I know that a dual on an I-4 serves no functional purpose. I am trying to obtain a certain clean look and i am willing to sacrafice a little bit of performance for it. Stop telling me things i already know. I am going to do this set up no matter what anyone tells me. If this is all the advice i can get from a TECH forum, im pretty dissapointed.
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by HAZE
ok....is anyone going to actually give me some helpful advice here? I know that a dual on an I-4 serves no functional purpose. I am trying to obtain a certain clean look and i am willing to sacrafice a little bit of performance for it. Stop telling me things i already know. I am going to do this set up no matter what anyone tells me. If this is all the advice i can get from a TECH forum, im pretty dissapointed.

tech forum.. meaning mostly performance.

I would think a 2 inch pipe would be fine.. I mean your losing velocity anyway from a dual exhaust on a 4cylinder engine, so whats the big deal with incorrect tubing.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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Everyone thats bashing the dual exhaust thing has either never had it done correctly or has just listens to what everyone else says. I'm running duals w/ no prob. Oh yeah I guess everyone forgot that the s2000 is a 4 banger too, huh?
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RDN
Everyone thats bashing the dual exhaust thing has either never had it done correctly or has just listens to what everyone else says. I'm running duals w/ no prob. Oh yeah I guess everyone forgot that the s2000 is a 4 banger too, huh?
so?
The dual on that is astethic too, race prepped versions do away with it.
No one said you would have problems, it's just more weight and less flow.
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