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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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help iam in a need of info i have a t-3 turbo hooked up on my car and iam in need to knwo if any one has 2 injectors to give or sell for a cheap price i need them to be at least 450cc injectors my turbo is pushing out 6.5psi and iam pushing out 184 hp 167whp
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 01:12 AM
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only running 6.5lbs, you don't need anything major for injectors. Are you just adding 2 injectors in addition to the stock injectors? Where do you plan on putting them?
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Can you post up some pics of your setup. What engine are you using. I ran 6lbs on my zc and it was fine with its stock stuff for over 6 months till I blew it up but it wasn't from the 6lbs . JUst curious about your set-up and not many boosted guys frequent our area.
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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Too bad we can't use stock second gen non-turbo RX-7 injectors in Hondas, they are 460cc and can be had for $5-$15 apeice. They are top feed, but I don't know how they compair and I don't know of anyone who has tried it.

Your best bet would be some DSM injectors, but as previously mentioned 6.5 pounds of boost from a T3 isn't much air.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Kai
Too bad we can't use stock second gen non-turbo RX-7 injectors in Hondas, they are 460cc and can be had for $5-$15 apeice. They are top feed, but I don't know how they compair and I don't know of anyone who has tried it.

Your best bet would be some DSM injectors, but as previously mentioned 6.5 pounds of boost from a T3 isn't much air.
Sorry buddy Turbo 2 RX7 injectors are 550cc injectors, and they can be used with honda's. They are sized about the same way as DSM injectors so they will swap in. Trouble with those injectors is you have to be real carefeul about what year car your get them from, because Mazda swapped from low imp. to high imp around 87.5(I think). I searched FOREVER for 84-85 gsl-se injectors(680cc and low imp), but they are rare as shit and usually need a rebuild. Depening on the impedence of the injector they will either drop right in(low imp) or require a removal of the factory resistor box(high imp). But here's a quick list of some commonly found injectos that may help you.

89-94 DSM 5-speed ~ 450cc, Blue tops, low imp
89-94 DSM Auto ~ 390cc, low imp
95+ DSM injectors ~ 450cc black tops, high imp.
84-85 RX7 GSL-SE 680cc, low impedence but only 2 per engine tho.
86-92 RX7 non-turbo 460cc(4 count), low or high impedence depenging on year.
86~92 RX7 Turbo 2 550cc(4 count), low or high imp.

Don't argue with me about the sizing on the non-turbo model's injectors. The only thing that stops Rotory engines from making power is lack of fual and they suck fuel down like no other. The injectors are also "staged", where 2 fire at low rpms and 4 at higher rpms.

Also why do you just need 2 injectors?
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Phreak
Sorry buddy Turbo 2 RX7 injectors are 550cc injectors
Learn to read, "buddy." I said non-turbo, as it the ones that are not Turbo II's. They have 460cc injectors.
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Don't argue with me about the sizing on the non-turbo model's injectors. The only thing that stops Rotory engines from making power is lack of fual and they suck fuel down like no other. The injectors are also "staged", where 2 fire at low rpms and 4 at higher rpms.

Also why do you just need 2 injectors?
You don't know what you're talking about. The stock fuel system on the non-turbos runs stupid rich, which means that when you dyno tune it with some form of fuel controler you lean it out to bring the A/F ratio and thus the power band back up where it should be. N/A rotaries love running lean, but emissions laws amoung other things make that difficult to do.

I regularly make 25mpg. Doesn't bother me at all, and that's untuned.

Our injection systems are staged because two 460cc injectors flow more then enough fuel to fully supply the two rotors to the 3800RPM engagement point of the secondaries. From 3800 and above, the job is shared with the secondaries. The GSL-SE only had two big injectors to avoid this, but their stock injection system is pretty bad in itself.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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I stand corrected. So whens the 13b going into the '87 civic :naughty:
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Phreak
I stand corrected. So whens the 13b going into the '87 civic :naughty:
If only I could. I had B17A1 dreams for that car, but not enough money to back it up. It's been for sale for a while, and may be going to a new owner this Super Sunday. It'll be the first time I've been without a Honda in five years.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Kai
If only I could. I had B17A1 dreams for that car, but not enough money to back it up. It's been for sale for a while, and may be going to a new owner this Super Sunday. It'll be the first time I've been without a Honda in five years.
That would have been a sweet setup, I've always wanted a 3rd/1st Civic/CRX Si. But I could never find one in good enough condition for the right price. I'm gonna start looking again tho, I hate driving aronud this drastically shitty machine....errr I mean DSM.
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