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Old 02-16-2004, 09:09 AM
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I have a 93 civic ex coupe manual. I recently installed 2 6X9 240 watts each and 4 6 1/2's. Their powered by 2 amps one is 400 watts with 4 channels and one 300 watts with two channels. I also have 2 10" subs in the back. After the installation when i turned the headlights on the cars light would dim and ligth back up if i hit the gas. After this happened I had to boost my car to start the next time. After this I stopped using my radio and this stopped happening for a few days. Then if i turn on my headlights it started to happen again. Is it my battery alternator or both?
Old 02-16-2004, 10:50 AM
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It can be either or both or other things also, but most likely the alternator. To test for your alternator, start you car and disconnect the positive terminal on the battery. If your car cuts off, you need a new alternator.

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Old 02-16-2004, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spyfunkr
It can be either or both or other things also, but most likely the alternator. To test for your alternator, start you car and disconnect the positive terminal on the battery. If your car cuts off, you need a new alternator.

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thanks im a try that right now
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I disconnected the positive terminal from the battery and the car didnt turn off. If its not the alternator than what is it? Why the lights dim and the car almost cuts off till i hit the gas?
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Originally Posted by sharktlp
I disconnected the positive terminal from the battery and the car didnt turn off. If its not the alternator than what is it? Why the lights dim and the car almost cuts off till i hit the gas?
Do a search in this forum for "battery" "alternator" "dim" and youll find a long thread about this stuff. Bottom line, your amps are sucking more power than you're producing - need more.
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Keep in mind that your alternator keeps your battery charged. If the battery/alternator can't keep up with your system, you'll probably want to check into a higher output alternator. Your lights will become brighter once you hit the gas because doing so will speed up the belt driving the alternator, producing a bit more power to the battery.
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So can it be my alternator belt thats damaged or maybe my battery does it neccasarily have to be my alternator?
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Your probably drawing an extra 20 to 30 amps over what your stock system was designed for. Even if you had brand new stock power components (engine, alternator, battery, etc.), you still would come up short. So, you need a stronger battery, probably an upgraded altenator and a cap to supplement the bass hits. But, is all this necessary to cure dimming lights? I've never heard of anyone claiming damage from adding a system, but you probably dont have very good overall electrical performance.

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I would recommend a capacitor AFTER you replace battery/alternator. If you're already having electrical issues, the cap would be just another draw causing problems. I had a Nissan pickup a few years back that had the same problem, and a capacitor only made things worse until I replaced the battery and uninstalled an amp.
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Originally Posted by sharktlp
So can it be my alternator belt thats damaged or maybe my battery does it neccasarily have to be my alternator?
It's not your alternator belt...it's either the alternator, or battery, or both.

Here's a really brief example of what's going on: Say your alternator puts out 70 amps or so. This is enough to keep the battery charged with the car running, lights on, heater on, etc. However, it isn't enough to power those things, AND a large stereo system. Say that everything in your car takes 60 amps to run, leaving you 10 amps to keep the battery charged. When you install a decent stereo, say it takes 50 amps to run. So with your car running and lights on, plus the stereo going, your alternator is working harder to keep the battery charged because of the extra draw of power. This will eventually lead to the alternator dying, and probably slowly killing the battery as well. Getting a better quality battery and high-output alternator should solve the problem.


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