Swirl Marks, and Other Comments
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My method
Dawn Wash
Clay
3M SMR
P21 S Paint Cleanser
Klasse All in ONe
S100 wax on top.
All except the s100 put on with a PorterCable buffer
Put that all together, and you'd better break out the sunglasses.
P.S. I live on the Island too, and car washes are a BIG no no
Dawn Wash
Clay
3M SMR
P21 S Paint Cleanser
Klasse All in ONe
S100 wax on top.
All except the s100 put on with a PorterCable buffer
Put that all together, and you'd better break out the sunglasses.
P.S. I live on the Island too, and car washes are a BIG no no
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From: In Your Girlfriend's Snatch
Originally posted by Mr Hyde
My method
Dawn Wash
Clay
3M SMR
P21 S Paint Cleanser
Klasse All in ONe
S100 wax on top.
All except the s100 put on with a PorterCable buffer
Put that all together, and you'd better break out the sunglasses.
P.S. I live on the Island too, and car washes are a BIG no no
My method
Dawn Wash
Clay
3M SMR
P21 S Paint Cleanser
Klasse All in ONe
S100 wax on top.
All except the s100 put on with a PorterCable buffer
Put that all together, and you'd better break out the sunglasses.
P.S. I live on the Island too, and car washes are a BIG no no
What part of Strong Isle you in, bro? Im in Rockville Centre, working in Port Washington...
I understand what you are saying about the car washes, but I really have no choice sometimes, man...I live in an apartment building, and they dont even take out the hoses for us to use until summer; up until now, how can I have hand washed her with this weather we have been having? This winter was terrible---where was I to wash her? I have no garage. I park her in a lot. I dont know what I can do to maintain her.
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Re: summary
Originally posted by Tom T
Just wanted to summarize & clarify a few of the comments you received in the 1st reply. I won a '79 Vette and a new BMW 3
and am a member of detailing boards where there are some fanatics. Most suggest the following;
1) Good wash w/car wash soap of course
2) Remove/Minimize Swirl Marks - 3M SMR or Meguiar's #9.. Might have to do it several times. Go easy & use 100% Made in USA Cotton towels only.
3) Wash again to remove any residual oils
4) Polish to nourish the paint either with Meguiar's #7 or P21S GEPC (glaze enhancing piant cleanser). Most prefer the p21S cause it's easier to remove
5) Wash lightly to remove any oils once again
6) Finish with a good wax or polish.... most on those boards love the P21S Wax or their S100 Wax that is available at Harleigh shops. Other favorite is Zaino polish which I use which everyone absolutely loves, but it's a multi-step process that takes more time.
Most important is to lightly work at removing most of the swirls and then polishing the car afterwards. Prep work is THE MOST critical is what I have been taught.
Good Luck!
Tom
Just wanted to summarize & clarify a few of the comments you received in the 1st reply. I won a '79 Vette and a new BMW 3
and am a member of detailing boards where there are some fanatics. Most suggest the following;
1) Good wash w/car wash soap of course
2) Remove/Minimize Swirl Marks - 3M SMR or Meguiar's #9.. Might have to do it several times. Go easy & use 100% Made in USA Cotton towels only.
3) Wash again to remove any residual oils
4) Polish to nourish the paint either with Meguiar's #7 or P21S GEPC (glaze enhancing piant cleanser). Most prefer the p21S cause it's easier to remove
5) Wash lightly to remove any oils once again
6) Finish with a good wax or polish.... most on those boards love the P21S Wax or their S100 Wax that is available at Harleigh shops. Other favorite is Zaino polish which I use which everyone absolutely loves, but it's a multi-step process that takes more time.
Most important is to lightly work at removing most of the swirls and then polishing the car afterwards. Prep work is THE MOST critical is what I have been taught.
Good Luck!
Tom
1) What is the recommended applicator/buffer (regular 100% cotton towel, terry cloth, microfiber, etc. ) for each step? I am planning on hand-buffing since I do not want to spend the money for a buffer.
2) For second and third wash (to remove leftover oils), is it a must to use car wash soap? Can't I just rinse with water?
3) If I wanted to use claybar, do I need to wash the car before using 3M SMR?
Thank you.
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Re: Re: summary
Originally posted by 94nteg
1) What is the recommended applicator/buffer (regular 100% cotton towel, terry cloth, microfiber, etc. ) for each step? I am planning on hand-buffing since I do not want to spend the money for a buffer.
2) For second and third wash (to remove leftover oils), is it a must to use car wash soap? Can't I just rinse with water?
3) If I wanted to use claybar, do I need to wash the car before using 3M SMR?
Thank you.
1) What is the recommended applicator/buffer (regular 100% cotton towel, terry cloth, microfiber, etc. ) for each step? I am planning on hand-buffing since I do not want to spend the money for a buffer.
2) For second and third wash (to remove leftover oils), is it a must to use car wash soap? Can't I just rinse with water?
3) If I wanted to use claybar, do I need to wash the car before using 3M SMR?
Thank you.
If you have more then one car to do, invest in a buffer $120 for a Porter Cable, and $60 or so for the accessories. You do cut down on hours of elbow grease work.
2. Water can't remove oil. So use car wash soap, cause it can remove the contaminates and leftover oil without removing the actual polish. Lightly scrub
. 3. Yes always wash before claying. It'll make the claying easier and make your clay bar less dirty which will allow it to last longer. Clay Magic is a great clay bar kit and its made in Japan. :thumbup:
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Originally posted by DJ Scotty
Oh man, I feel your pain bro, I really do.....I had some bad scratches and damages on my rear bumper from this past winter and from inconsiderate assholes just backing up into me...I had this paint guy come down to my apartment complex and he totally fixed the paint without having to repaint the whole bumper; there is a matching process of some kind that they do -- but now, the paint that he fixed looks like complete shit---it is not as shiny as the rest of the car; its like there is no clear coating on it....so I can relate.
Oh man, I feel your pain bro, I really do.....I had some bad scratches and damages on my rear bumper from this past winter and from inconsiderate assholes just backing up into me...I had this paint guy come down to my apartment complex and he totally fixed the paint without having to repaint the whole bumper; there is a matching process of some kind that they do -- but now, the paint that he fixed looks like complete shit---it is not as shiny as the rest of the car; its like there is no clear coating on it....so I can relate.
Originally posted by 91Accord
Forgive me...what is a claybar???
Forgive me...what is a claybar???
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From: In Your Girlfriend's Snatch
99 ACCORD BUMPER UPDATE!
Hey Bro,
And everyone else who I was discussing this thread with....
Well, it finally happened...and maybe for the best...some chick in a '99 Pathfinder hit me in the back a couple of weeks ago, and my baby needed to go to the body shop...so I got a brand new bumper, repainted, all shiny, clearcoated and new...they simonized the whole car, got the swirl marks out, and she looks as good as new again. Now, with the New York winters we have been having, I am not looking forward to the snow this car is going to have to deal with this winter, to ruin the finish once again. Oh well. In the meantime, that nasty wetsanding job that asshole did was fixed, and I have a brand new shiny bumper on the car.
And everyone else who I was discussing this thread with....
Well, it finally happened...and maybe for the best...some chick in a '99 Pathfinder hit me in the back a couple of weeks ago, and my baby needed to go to the body shop...so I got a brand new bumper, repainted, all shiny, clearcoated and new...they simonized the whole car, got the swirl marks out, and she looks as good as new again. Now, with the New York winters we have been having, I am not looking forward to the snow this car is going to have to deal with this winter, to ruin the finish once again. Oh well. In the meantime, that nasty wetsanding job that asshole did was fixed, and I have a brand new shiny bumper on the car.