What about Accord 6 spd Coupe??
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The talk was that the next TL/CL will NOT be based on the Accord platform, but will be RWD, so as to compete directly with BMW and Infinity. Apparently FWD isn't cutting it in the marketplace for the higher end cars, especially if they want a more sporting image.
Originally posted by AccordSleeper
an NSX cannot be compared to a CL-S even if it has similar hp.
fact is acura needs to compete with the G35 coupe which has 280hp. they also need to to distance themselves from the Accord. why buy a CL with 220 hp when a V6 accord has 240? they need to bump the CL to 260 and bump the CL-S to 280-290 range. isn't their plans for V8 NSX anyways?
an NSX cannot be compared to a CL-S even if it has similar hp.
fact is acura needs to compete with the G35 coupe which has 280hp. they also need to to distance themselves from the Accord. why buy a CL with 220 hp when a V6 accord has 240? they need to bump the CL to 260 and bump the CL-S to 280-290 range. isn't their plans for V8 NSX anyways?
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Originally posted by MikeW
The talk was that the next TL/CL will NOT be based on the Accord platform, but will be RWD, so as to compete directly with BMW and Infinity. Apparently FWD isn't cutting it in the marketplace for the higher end cars, especially if they want a more sporting image.
The talk was that the next TL/CL will NOT be based on the Accord platform, but will be RWD, so as to compete directly with BMW and Infinity. Apparently FWD isn't cutting it in the marketplace for the higher end cars, especially if they want a more sporting image.
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=07799113
(09:40 Feb. 10, 2003)
Acura begins 18-month product binge, says adding rear-wheel drive not critical to success
By MARK RECHTIN | Automotive News
While Acura Division redesigns its product line and enters new segments, it will not need rear-wheel drive to be a true luxury brand, dealers were told at the make meeting.
Acura sedans and coupes can have as much as 270 hp and still have a luxurious feel with front-wheel drive, said Ramsay Gillman, a multifranchise dealer from Houston.
Anything more powerful than that would require all-wheel drive, which hints at the direction of the replacement for the 3.5 RL.
Before the next RL arrives in spring 2004, Acura has the more pressing business of launching the TSX sedan this April and the redesigned TL sedan in the fall.
Because the TL will be moving up in stature and price, the TSX will not encroach on the TL's price turf, said Dick Colliver, Acura Division executive vice president of auto sales.
The TSX will be priced between $27,000 and $30,000.
Based on the European-market Honda Accord, the TSX will be marketed for its suspension and performance. The fact that it is powered by a four-cylinder engine will not receive as much attention.
"The TSX is sweet and strong. I think we can do some damage," said dealer council chairman George D'Angelo, dealer principal of Acura of Westchester, in Larchmont, N.Y.
Colliver hopes Acura will sell "170,000-plus" units this year, up from 165,552 in 2002.
He is heartened by Allison-Fisher International data that show the number of Acura buyers who are cross-shopping with Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Lexus has doubled since 1995.
To keep the brand strong, Colliver is putting the clamps on dealers who play fast and loose with local advertising.
No dealer ad will be allowed to mention the price of a car for sale, unless the price is sticker or above, he said. That includes newspaper classified advertising, usually the bastion of cut-price deals. Anyone who violates this policy can lose the factory subsidy for the ads.
"Schlock ads bring the franchise down. Running ads with MSRP brings gross margins up," D'Angelo said.
About 85 percent of Acura dealers have signed up for a showroom redesign.
Almost all already have installed the new signs, which replace the old red lettering with navy blue.
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Well, then they better get used to playing fifthe fiddle behind BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Infinity. Audi gets away with this, but only on their lower end versions, and because they have the best AWD system for their higher end cars.
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Originally posted by MikeW
Well, then they better get used to playing fifthe fiddle behind BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Infinity. Audi gets away with this, but only on their lower end versions, and because they have the best AWD system for their higher end cars.
Well, then they better get used to playing fifthe fiddle behind BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Infinity. Audi gets away with this, but only on their lower end versions, and because they have the best AWD system for their higher end cars.
The only companies they're behind are MB and BMW...and of course they're behind them, for the obvious yuppie image reasons. Acura outsells Infiniti and Audi by quite a bit.
If you wanna talk about the next TL/CL, please do it in the appropriate forum: https://www.honda-acura.net/forums/f...php?forumid=27
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With BMW, you get a peformance semi-luxury car.
With Acura you get a semi-luxury car that has performance options.
They are different animals in that sense.
You pay more for BMW, but you get more of a driver's car (RWD being one of those things).
Acura gives you more power for the money, but not neccessarily more performance.
I love Honda, it's a great company...but I just don't get as excited about their cars as I do with the Euro's. I think I'll be getting into a euro sedan (BMW, Audi) for my next car.
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With Acura you get a semi-luxury car that has performance options.
They are different animals in that sense.
You pay more for BMW, but you get more of a driver's car (RWD being one of those things).
Acura gives you more power for the money, but not neccessarily more performance.
I love Honda, it's a great company...but I just don't get as excited about their cars as I do with the Euro's. I think I'll be getting into a euro sedan (BMW, Audi) for my next car.
<AcuraFanatic is gonna go off on me for this post...bracing myself>
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i went 2 my dealer which the top boss told me that honda was only sending each dealership 1 V6 manual so they were just gonna take it 2 an auction n sell it off 2 the highest bidder
****in gay if u ask me but thats what i heard
****in gay if u ask me but thats what i heard
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The dealer I discussed it with said they would get 5 for the rest of the year. Now how much of this is the dealers trying to beat the bushes from presales? Your guess is as good as mine. But my guess is they're playing up the rarilty.
I have a feeling if they sell out, they'll up production for the next batch. I would (and actually intend to) pass on the first batch, and see what happens come September.
By the way, was there a manual version of the last generation Accord Coupe V6? How rare were they?
I have a feeling if they sell out, they'll up production for the next batch. I would (and actually intend to) pass on the first batch, and see what happens come September.
By the way, was there a manual version of the last generation Accord Coupe V6? How rare were they?
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Originally posted by jschmid
I love Honda, it's a great company...but I just don't get as excited about their cars as I do with the Euro's. I think I'll be getting into a euro sedan (BMW, Audi) for my next car.
I love Honda, it's a great company...but I just don't get as excited about their cars as I do with the Euro's. I think I'll be getting into a euro sedan (BMW, Audi) for my next car.