Last I looked, the CL-S was in the $35K range, while the Accord was in the $25K range. Are they discounting the Acura that aggressively?

If I'm going to go to $35K, I'd be more likely to go with the Infiniti, and once I'm playing in that ballpark, it might be worth stretching it to the Bimmer.. I don't really want FWD, but in the <$30K range, that's what's available. I wouldn't pay >$30K for what is essentially a gussied up Accord when I can get the Accord, with most of what the CL-S has, for around $25K

 

btw if you look at MT's stats for Accord Coupe Braking within one month the car's braking distance changed by more than ten feet in 0-60....

Tires are the weak link when it comes to braking.....then pads, then fluid/rotors/cooling and then lines....

noel

 

The 3.2CL Type S with the LSD is bar-none the best FWD system out there. You CANNOT tell it's FWD, except maybe when driving it past 9/10 and it begins to understeer.

The Accord starts at around $19,000 for a nice 'ole DX 4-cylinder 5-speed, but makes it's way up to $27,000 or so for a V-6 EX Coupe with a 6-speed manual. If you get navigation, tack on another $2000 to $29,000.

The 3.2CL Type S starts at around $33,000, and $35,000 with navigation. Neither will be discounted heavily, especially the CL, for they're relatively rare (in June I looked into buying a Nighthawk Black Pearl 6-speed, but there was a 4-month wait).

 

No.

The CL Type-S 6 speed starts at $30,550. The 6 speed with Navigation can be had for $32,700. Dealers are discounting the CL 6 speed by about $1000...so figure you can get an Accord 6 speed with Navigation for the price of a CL-S 6 speed without Navigation.

 

Yes.

There's something called "MSRP" which was listed as $32,000 and change. MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. It can vary, I listed it from experience...I figure they'd still be marked up (6-speeds) due to rareity. Yes, automatics are being discounted. You're damned lucky if they're discounting them in your area, but ours was a markup.

 

The prices I stated were "MSRP" you dumbass :slap: Invoice prices are about $1500 lower than what I listed. They are discounting 6 speeds here in Syracuse...our sporty car market blows. Last month, there were 3 in the lot and my friend there said I could have it for about $500 over invoice.

 

I know you stated MSRP. I was telling him market value. Hence my correction.

 

Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price doesn't change. You said MSRP, not market value. Dealer mark up has nothing to do with that, if anyone is stupid enough to pay it on a car that isn't selling very well. The 6 speeds were never marked up here and are now discounted.

 

Comparison here:


And like I said...about $30,000. MSRP is 30,550 like Chris said.


*edit* damn...link doesn't go all the way through...here it is:


Acura Honda
2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT





VALUE AND WARRANTY 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Base Price MSRP $30,550 $25,900
Destination Charge $500 $460
Comparably Equipped Price $31,050 $26,360 + DPI*
Automatic Transmission Accessory Not Available
Residual Values 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
ALG Residual Value after 36 months 51% Not Listed
ALG Residual Value after 60 months 38% Not Listed
Warranty & Service Interval 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Basic Warranty Time (Months) 48 36
Basic Warranty Miles 50000 36000
Powertrain Warranty Time (Months) 48 36
Powertrain Warranty Miles 50000 36000
Rust Warranty Time (Months) 60 60
Rust Warranty Miles Unlimited Unlimited
Extended Service Interval Standard Standard
COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Manual Air Conditioning Not Available Not Available
Automatic Climate Control Standard Standard
Rear Seat Heater Ducts Standard Standard
Power Windows Standard Standard
Power Door Locks Standard Standard
Adjustable Steering Column Standard Standard
Automatic Tilt Away Column Not Available Not Available
Navigation System Not Available Optional
Steering Wheel Mounted Controls Standard Standard
Air Filtration System Standard Standard
Cruise Control Standard Standard
Homelink Remote System Standard Standard
Seats 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Leather Trimmed Seats Standard Standard
Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel Standard Standard
Front Bucket Seat Standard Standard
Power Driver Seat Standard Standard
Power Passenger Seat Standard Standard
Front Power Memory Seat Standard Not Available
Front Heated Seat Standard Standard
Front Adjustable Seat Height Standard Standard
Fold-Down Rear Seatback Not Available Standard
Fold-Down Rear Center Armrest Standard Not Available
Front Adjustable Lumbar Support Standard Standard
Sound System 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
AM/FM Stereo Standard Standard
Cassette Standard Optional
Compact Disc Player Standard Standard
Compact Disc Changer Standard Standard
Lighting 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Halogen Headlights Not Available Standard
High-Intensity Discharge Headlights Not Available Not Available
Headlight w/Auto-On/Off Standard Standard
Fog Lights Not Available Optional
Cargo Area Light Standard Standard
Map Light Standard Standard
Glass & Mirrors 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Rear Window Defroster Standard Standard
Heated Mirrors Standard Not Available
Power Mirrors Standard Standard
Vanity Mirror Standard Standard
Illuminated Vanity Mirrors Standard Standard
Instrumentation 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Memory Adjustments Standard Not Available
Tachometer Standard Standard
Outside Temperature Gauge Standard Standard
Maintenance Interval Indicator Standard Standard
Remotes & Releases 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Remote Trunk Release Standard Standard
Remote Fuel Filler Door Release Standard Standard
Keyless Entry System Standard Standard
Storage 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Cargo Net Standard Standard
Door Storage Standard Standard
Seatback Storage Standard Standard
Armrest Storage Standard Standard
Trunk Pass-Through Standard Not Available
Console Storage Standard Standard
Coin Box Standard Standard
Beverage Holders Standard Standard
Sunroof/Removable Top 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Moonroof Standard Standard
PERFORMANCE & ENGINEERING 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Engine & Transmission
Engine Name 3.2L V6 3.0L V6
Cylinders 6 6
Valves 24 24
Valves Configuration SOHC SOHC
Displacement CC 3210 2997
Bore X Stroke 3.50 X 3.39 3.39 X 3.39
Compression Ratio 10.5:1 10.0:1
Horsepower 260 240
Horsepower RPM 6100 6250
Torque Ft. Lbs. 232 212
Torque RPM 3500 5000
Fuel System Multi-Port Fuel Injected Multi-Port Fuel Injected
Engine Location Front Front
Driveline Front Wheel Drive Front Wheel Drive
Transmission Speeds 6 6
Transmission Auto/Manual Manual Manual
Transmission Overdrive Y Y
Final Drive Ratio 3.29 3.29
Fuel Economy 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Fuel-Economy City 19 Not Listed
Fuel-Economy Highway 28 Not Listed
Combined Fuel-Economy 22 Not Listed
Steering, Braking, Traction 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Power Steering Standard Standard
Steering Rack and Pinion Rack and Pinion
Turning Diameter, Left 39.4 38.1
Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) Standard Standard
Brakes (Front) Disc Disc
Brakes (Rear) Disc Disc
Traction Control System Accessory Standard
Suspension and Tires 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Suspension (Front) Independent Independent
Suspension (Rear) Independent Independent
Stabilizer Bar Standard Standard
Tires SBRP215/50R17 93V, All-Season High Performance Michelin(R) Pilot MXM4 Tires SBRP215/50R17, All-Season Tires
Alloy Wheels Standard Standard
Chrome Wheels Not Available Optional
SAFETY 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Driver Airbag Standard Standard
Passenger Airbag Standard Standard
Front Side Airbags Standard Standard
Seatbelt Adjuster Not Available Not Available
LATCH Upper Tethers Standard Standard
Child Proof Rear Door Locks Not Available Not Available
Intermittent Wipers Standard Standard
Head Restraints (2nd Row) Standard Standard
Anti-theft 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Vehicle Theft-Deterrent System Standard Standard
Radio Theft-Deterrent System Standard Standard
DIMENSIONS AND CAPACITIES 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Curb Weight, MT 3446 3265
Curb Weight, AT 3510 Not Applicable
Ground Clearance 6.2 Not Listed
Height 55.5 55.7
Length 192.0 187.6
Track (Front) 61.1 61.1
Track (Rear) 61.0 61.2
Wheelbase 106.9 105.1
Width 70.6 71.3
Capacity & Volume 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
EPA Class Compact Cars Mid-Size Cars
Cargo Volume (Manufacturer) 13.6 12.8
Fuel Tank Capacity 17.2 17.1
Passenger Volume (Manufacturer) 90.0 88.0
Seating (Standard) 4 5
Interior Dimensions 2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S 2003 Honda Accord Coupe EX V6 6-Speed MT
Headroom (Front) 37.5 37.5
Headroom (Rear) 36.7 36.1
Legroom (Front) 42.4 43.1
Legroom (Rear) 33.0 31.9
Shoulder Room (Front) 56.4 56.1
Shoulder Room (Rear) 54.2 55.4

 

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