So I'm getting my timing belt replaced....
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So I'm getting my timing belt replaced....
And I've learned a lot from these forums. I'm overdue @ 135k, so when tax return comes back, I'm taking it in. My question is this: Should I have any other work done on the engine while they do the timing belt? I'm getting a new o2 sensor also and doing that myself, but I don't feel I have the expertise or tools to do a timing belt. Thanks.
Oh, the car is a 98 Accord EX 2.3.
Oh, the car is a 98 Accord EX 2.3.
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What about price.....
I do all of my minor work, myself (tune-ups, 02 sensor, stereo) so I have never even taken this car to a shop yet. How much can I expect to pay, ball-park figure. And I don't want to spark a huge debate of dealership vs. Joe's garage here, but first trip to shop in almost three years, should I just take it to dealership? Thanks.
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First, I'd highly recommend the dealer for this job. I've heard way too many stories about Ol Joe's garage screwing it up. Honda's are picky ass cars sometimes and going with the dealer will both assure it's done right and provide you with a warranty on service if something isn't right when you get it back.
Expect to pay $500-$800 for the job. Here in Utah the cheapest of the three dealers we have in SLC will do it for $560. But in other regions I've heard as high as $900, though I think those people didn't shop around.
Typically when they do it they suggest the water pump as well. The part is cheap and requires no further labor to change, though if it goes later they'll have to charge all the labor they do for the belt and you'll be screwed. It's a good investment to do it when they do the belt. They'll most likely tell you this but if they don't then ask for it specifically. Typically they'll also replace the cam and crank seals as nspec mentioned but if they don't say anything about it bring that up to.
You may opt to have them adjust the valves if you don't want to do it yourself. They'll likely charge you an hour or so labor to do it. If they're not excessively clacky (which in the 6th gen four banger is hard to tell since the engine is clacky as hell off the assembly line) then I wouldn't worry about it.
Expect to pay $500-$800 for the job. Here in Utah the cheapest of the three dealers we have in SLC will do it for $560. But in other regions I've heard as high as $900, though I think those people didn't shop around.
Typically when they do it they suggest the water pump as well. The part is cheap and requires no further labor to change, though if it goes later they'll have to charge all the labor they do for the belt and you'll be screwed. It's a good investment to do it when they do the belt. They'll most likely tell you this but if they don't then ask for it specifically. Typically they'll also replace the cam and crank seals as nspec mentioned but if they don't say anything about it bring that up to.
You may opt to have them adjust the valves if you don't want to do it yourself. They'll likely charge you an hour or so labor to do it. If they're not excessively clacky (which in the 6th gen four banger is hard to tell since the engine is clacky as hell off the assembly line) then I wouldn't worry about it.
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It is always a good thing to replace the water pump if you are doing the timing belt.I got my timing belt,water pump,and a new oil pan for $900.Did I get ripped?Probably,but what are you gonna do if you can't do it yourself and it needs to get done?
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When I reach 210K miles I had my timing belt, accesory belts, fuel pump and oil sender unit done by Triangle Motors in Frederick, MD that only work on Honda/Acura for $570. They seem reasonable and I started having them do all the work that I cannot do in my driveway. There is no reason to replace the oil pan unless it is dented that affects the oil pump unit. If the gasket is not leaking, you should not worry about it. I never have my valve adjusted on my 92 since it has self adjusting mechanism. I do have to contend w/ tapping noise specially when starting in cold weather. The car just passed the emission and only use half a quart of synthetic oil every oil change. The car has now over 247k miles and still going strong.
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And I've learned a lot from these forums. I'm overdue @ 135k, so when tax return comes back, I'm taking it in. My question is this: Should I have any other work done on the engine while they do the timing belt? I'm getting a new o2 sensor also and doing that myself, but I don't feel I have the expertise or tools to do a timing belt. Thanks.
Oh, the car is a 98 Accord EX 2.3.
Oh, the car is a 98 Accord EX 2.3.
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could anyone tell me what my problem might be,i have a 2001 honda accord ex 2.3l ,4 door i am getting poor gas mileage on it in normal driving conditions.i am getting 390-400 km per full tank,i know that is not the mileage i am suppose to get ,can anyone tell me what i have to do or change so i can get the right fuel mileage on the car ,thanks.
i also changed the ignition wires 2 weeks ago but the same problem still happens car is drinking gas.please help!!
i also changed the ignition wires 2 weeks ago but the same problem still happens car is drinking gas.please help!!
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Just thought I'd chime in on this since I had my timing belt done last week.
It came out to about $420 with parts and labor. It was an independent mechanic but he had done extensive work on my uncle's 5th gen Accord and it runs like a dream so I felt safe taking it to him.
$420 got my timing belt, water pump, and accessory belts all changed out. The belt, water pump, and one other part (can't remember which) were official Honda parts, too. The accessory belts were probably picked up at Autozone but that's no big deal.
Also he checked and said all the seals were fine. No idea how much those would cost to replace, though.
But as everyone said - most definitely get the water pump done with the timing belt.
And independent mechanics are good so long as you know you're dealing with somehow who has experience with Hondas. I'm kind of fortunate - if I hadn't found this guy, the lead Honda mechanic at my hometown's dealership runs his own independent shop on the weekends. So I had options. But if in doubt, the dealership is probably your best bet.
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If you have any doubts about getting the water pump done at the same time ('cos of money or whatever reason), look around the accord forums for a guy asking about a water pump leak recently. He just had his timing belt done but didn't get the water pump done. He's now potentially looking at a charge for labor in the same ballpark as timing belt replacement. It may cost a little extra now but it'll save you a lot in the long run.
It came out to about $420 with parts and labor. It was an independent mechanic but he had done extensive work on my uncle's 5th gen Accord and it runs like a dream so I felt safe taking it to him.
$420 got my timing belt, water pump, and accessory belts all changed out. The belt, water pump, and one other part (can't remember which) were official Honda parts, too. The accessory belts were probably picked up at Autozone but that's no big deal.
Also he checked and said all the seals were fine. No idea how much those would cost to replace, though.
But as everyone said - most definitely get the water pump done with the timing belt.
And independent mechanics are good so long as you know you're dealing with somehow who has experience with Hondas. I'm kind of fortunate - if I hadn't found this guy, the lead Honda mechanic at my hometown's dealership runs his own independent shop on the weekends. So I had options. But if in doubt, the dealership is probably your best bet.
BTW
If you have any doubts about getting the water pump done at the same time ('cos of money or whatever reason), look around the accord forums for a guy asking about a water pump leak recently. He just had his timing belt done but didn't get the water pump done. He's now potentially looking at a charge for labor in the same ballpark as timing belt replacement. It may cost a little extra now but it'll save you a lot in the long run.
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When they're replacing the timing belt, much of the engine is taken apart anyways ... have them do all the other drive belts (power steering, etc) while they're in there. Same goes with the water pump.
Most dealerships will offer a package price for it all.
Most dealerships will offer a package price for it all.