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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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I did have a front end collision with the vehicle (a '99 EX V-6 Coupe with 57,000 miles on it) last winter, but since that time she had been "slipping" and hesitating; well, since relocating to Nevada from The Empire State, a local Honda dealership told me it is indeed the transmission and its shot....my insurance company (Geico) is picking up the cost of this under their "Mechanical Breakdown" policy we have with them because we argued that this could have been part of the accident and how the body shop repaired the car, being that I didnt have ANY transmission problems prior to the accident.

I heard the V6 Accords had some auto tranny recalls and failures, as did the Acura TLs of the same year and vintage; any of you guys having any problems or have had any problems with your sixth generation auto trannies?

Honda is sending Geico a "factory reconditioned" transmission for my car, which will be shipped to the local dealer here for installation. Should I expect any problems with a Honda refurbished tranny once its in, do you think?
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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I heard the V6 Accords had some auto tranny recalls and failures, as did the Acura TLs of the same year >>>

The 4-cylinder Accords were included in the warranty as well, and not excluded from premature failures as a result of bad carrier bearings. The extended warranty only covers 00-01 models, but the 98-99 and 02s have the same transmission and have also experienced problems. Honda usually issues a 'goodwill' replacement for these years.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsaHonda
I heard the V6 Accords had some auto tranny recalls and failures, as did the Acura TLs of the same year >>>

The 4-cylinder Accords were included in the warranty as well, and not excluded from premature failures as a result of bad carrier bearings. The extended warranty only covers 00-01 models, but the 98-99 and 02s have the same transmission and have also experienced problems. Honda usually issues a 'goodwill' replacement for these years.
Yes, I heard the exact same thing......but the dealer here in Vegas I took the car to told me MY generation Accord is not covered under this goodwill program and so my insurance company is taking care of putting in the tranny because we are claiming it MAY be because of mechanical failure due to the Geico body shop that did my front end work after my accident. I was having NO trouble with the transmission PRIOR to the accident, and the DAY AFTER the accident, an inspection station told me about a "transmission seal leak" they discovered; I brought it back to the body shop that did the work and there was indeed something wrong with some kind of tranny seal.

At this point, Im wondering if getting this refurbished tranny is okay.....
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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I don't see why you would. I believe H & A takes care of all Honda/Acura transmission rebuilds...since Honda/Acura dealerships do not tear into transmissions. H & A is an independent transmission shop that specializes in Hondas and Acuras and (as far as I know) has a contract with Honda and is owned and operated by (former?) Honda employees. From what I've heard and read of them, they do quality work...and very seldom have I heard of anyone having problems with a reman. unit in their Honda.

Here is an article for more info, with a link at the bottom. Hope this helps.

H & A Transmissions, Inc. is a Remanufacturing facility that specializes Strictly in production of Transmissions for the Honda and Acura Automobiles. It has been carefully built by partners and family members, G. Roland Dickason the CEO of the company and Gil Dickason V.P. Director of Sales.

Roland, who is the Founder of the company, began working on Honda automobiles back in 1975 performing general repairs and rebuilding transmissions/transaxles/gearboxes as an independent Honda car specialist repair shop where he was co-owner.

In 1983 Roland sold out his interest in the Santa Fe Springs, California location and formed another partnership. He then opened another Honda automobile service and repair center in Covina, California, and began to specialize in transmission/transaxle/gearbox rebuilding while his partner focused on general repair.

By the end of 1991, the transmission/transaxle/gearbox portion of the business had taken off and Roland again decided to split off and focus solely on transmission/transaxle/gearbox remanufacturing for the Honda and Acura automobiles. It was then that H & A Transmissions was born.

Each transmissions is built from start to finish as a whole unit independent from all others. First it gets broken down and cleaned by the teardown department and inspected. It then goes into a hot wash and is brought out to be re-inspected by the prep department, who then takes the cases to our polishing station for further cleanup. While this is being done all of the hard parts are then examined again by our technical inspectors.

The valve bodies are placed in an ultra-sonic cleaning station after the builder tears them down and inspects all springs and pistons. All pistons are then hand polished to a mirror finish, thus removing all imperfections, and the valve bodies are washed for a third time.

Valve bodies are then re-assembled by the builder who then goes over the notes of both prior inspections. The builder then does his own inspection and goes over the unit with a fine toothed comb.

Once satisfied, he builds the unit. If there is a question regarding any quality issues, the builder then would go to the operations manager to correct his findings.

Each transmission goes through four cleaning stages and four inspection stages to insure cleanliness and quality of parts. Our transmissions are built in enclosed rooms to keep the environment as dust and lint free as is possible. Each transmission is built using the finest O.E.M. hard parts and bearings to insure a unit that will last for many years.

Once the transmission has been completed, the builder then stamps his initials and a serial number on the unit and all work performed is then documented in his builder notes which are then filed as a permanent record. H & A Transmissions Inc. has been recognized as an industry leaded and has been featured in Sept 2002 edition of Gears Magazine's article entitled " Remans - Evolution or Revolution".

Furthermore, as of January 2002 H & A Transmissions Inc became a Supplier to the "Honda Care Extended Warranty Program" servicing dealerships through out the Unite states. So when quality truly matters request your repair shop of choice to call H & A Transmissions Inc. for a replacement unit.

For more information, please visit H&A on the web at www.hnatrans.com.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsaHonda
I don't see why you would. I believe H & A takes care of all Honda/Acura transmission rebuilds...since Honda/Acura dealerships do not tear into transmissions. H & A is an independent transmission shop that specializes in Hondas and Acuras and (as far as I know) has a contract with Honda and is owned and operated by (former?) Honda employees. From what I've heard and read of them, they do quality work...and very seldom have I heard of anyone having problems with a reman. unit in their Honda.

Here is an article for more info, with a link at the bottom. Hope this helps.

H & A Transmissions, Inc. is a Remanufacturing facility that specializes Strictly in production of Transmissions for the Honda and Acura Automobiles. It has been carefully built by partners and family members, G. Roland Dickason the CEO of the company and Gil Dickason V.P. Director of Sales.

Roland, who is the Founder of the company, began working on Honda automobiles back in 1975 performing general repairs and rebuilding transmissions/transaxles/gearboxes as an independent Honda car specialist repair shop where he was co-owner.

In 1983 Roland sold out his interest in the Santa Fe Springs, California location and formed another partnership. He then opened another Honda automobile service and repair center in Covina, California, and began to specialize in transmission/transaxle/gearbox rebuilding while his partner focused on general repair.

By the end of 1991, the transmission/transaxle/gearbox portion of the business had taken off and Roland again decided to split off and focus solely on transmission/transaxle/gearbox remanufacturing for the Honda and Acura automobiles. It was then that H & A Transmissions was born.

Each transmissions is built from start to finish as a whole unit independent from all others. First it gets broken down and cleaned by the teardown department and inspected. It then goes into a hot wash and is brought out to be re-inspected by the prep department, who then takes the cases to our polishing station for further cleanup. While this is being done all of the hard parts are then examined again by our technical inspectors.

The valve bodies are placed in an ultra-sonic cleaning station after the builder tears them down and inspects all springs and pistons. All pistons are then hand polished to a mirror finish, thus removing all imperfections, and the valve bodies are washed for a third time.

Valve bodies are then re-assembled by the builder who then goes over the notes of both prior inspections. The builder then does his own inspection and goes over the unit with a fine toothed comb.

Once satisfied, he builds the unit. If there is a question regarding any quality issues, the builder then would go to the operations manager to correct his findings.

Each transmission goes through four cleaning stages and four inspection stages to insure cleanliness and quality of parts. Our transmissions are built in enclosed rooms to keep the environment as dust and lint free as is possible. Each transmission is built using the finest O.E.M. hard parts and bearings to insure a unit that will last for many years.

Once the transmission has been completed, the builder then stamps his initials and a serial number on the unit and all work performed is then documented in his builder notes which are then filed as a permanent record. H & A Transmissions Inc. has been recognized as an industry leaded and has been featured in Sept 2002 edition of Gears Magazine's article entitled " Remans - Evolution or Revolution".

Furthermore, as of January 2002 H & A Transmissions Inc became a Supplier to the "Honda Care Extended Warranty Program" servicing dealerships through out the Unite states. So when quality truly matters request your repair shop of choice to call H & A Transmissions Inc. for a replacement unit.

For more information, please visit H&A on the web at www.hnatrans.com.
Thank you very much for the info! I hope I have no problems with the rebuilt unit; is it going to give me the same performance a new transmission would, or should I not even expect that?
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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it should be just as good, if not better.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsaHonda
it should be just as good, if not better.
Thank you for putting my mind at ease.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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Even if you wanted a new one, you can't get one...they no longer mfg. that exact transmission since that model Honda is no longer made.

As is, I would expect this re-mfg. unit to be as good if not better then OE. Someone took the time to inspect and place each part into this tranny.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MrChad
Even if you wanted a new one, you can't get one...they no longer mfg. that exact transmission since that model Honda is no longer made.

As is, I would expect this re-mfg. unit to be as good if not better then OE. Someone took the time to inspect and place each part into this tranny.
Yeah, I would have gone rebuilt too if I wasn't able to buy a 2000MY tranny with only 33k miles for $700 shipped. I had it thrown in for under $300 and after 36k miles and one fluid change (so about 70k total tranny miles) it hasn't showed any of the signs that my bum transmission started to display at around 100k: loud reverse engagement, loud reverse gear, and delayed 1-2 shift. If I get up to 250k with that tranny I'll be a happy camper.
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MrChad
Even if you wanted a new one, you can't get one...they no longer mfg. that exact transmission since that model Honda is no longer made.

As is, I would expect this re-mfg. unit to be as good if not better then OE. Someone took the time to inspect and place each part into this tranny.
Thank you, Chad.
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