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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Does honda recomend when you should replace valve springs????

I'm not doing any internals, and have read that I shouldn't get anything for high performance because it will add to much load to the valvetrain. So I'm looking for OEM.

I know that you are suppose to get a valve adjustment every like 15K.

Sadly I haven't gotten, or done mine in well over who knows how many miles, even though the sound of them is so annoying.
She now has over 160K miles on her, and I'm wondering if I should get new ones, or just get the adjustment. I tried finding someone that sold stock springs, but the only one I found was honda, and it was over 100 for all 16 springs. BTW: How much would honda charge for the valve adjustment?? I asked at Pepboys once and one of the guys there said they would charge 1.2 hours. I thought about doing it myself, but am kinda lazy about it. This weekend I'm hopefully going to get to put in my suspension, so if there's any money left I will probably be stopping at honda to let them do it.

PS. What exactly are the cons of not adjusting the valves... other than the annoying sound.

Kind of a dumb question... but does this affect the exhaust sound as well? I've been wondering that lately.
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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I wouldn't feel there is a problem with the springs. The only reason to replace them is if they are weak or out of spec. The adjustment does this. The valves are designed to open a specific amout so the air in the chamber can enter and exit. The exact amount of air can effect engine performance. So if the valves are out of adjustment you will get that tap tap noise. Louder than normal ofcourse but it actually is alowing less air to enter and leave the combustion chamber therefore affecting the performance.
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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i once had a problem with the valve staying open for too long and i would lose power. stupid mechanic screw it when he touch it.
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JL95AccorD
Does honda recomend when you should replace valve springs????

PS. What exactly are the cons of not adjusting the valves... other than the annoying sound.
I don't think they recommend changing the springs unless they bind or break. Keep the ones you have. Just get on that valve adjustment because if it is out of spec, it will accelerate rocker arm wear and you WILL need to get new rocker arms if they are worn out of spec.
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 04:33 AM
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I passed by honda last night on my way home, but they seemed too busy and I was also busy to get out of there, so I didn't have a chance to ask about cost. Anyone know about how much they charge for it? I doubt I will try to do it myself, too lazy, and I'm guessing that if I don't do it then the best place is to get it done at honda.
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JL95AccorD

I know that you are suppose to get a valve adjustment every like 15K.
What owners manual or service manual are you using???? Even most motorcycles now have 30k mile valve adjustment intervals. Newer Accords have a 115k interval. Older cars are 30-60k.

Valves simply don't go out of tolerance that quickly anymore.

Springs do soften over time, but on a stock engine with a 6500 RPM redline.. i don;t expect valve float from too soft springs ot be an issue. I don;t hink it would be nessesary until you replace the piston rings during a full rebuild at 200k - 300k miles when they wear out.
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