I just visited Honda of New Zealand and the Accords (V6) sold there have 91 Octane fuel recommendation (minimum). http://www.honda.co.nz/site/new_cars..._v6/index.html

Yet, in the US we "feed" them shitty 87 Octane? (Not me - always 94 Sunoco - say what you will about "wasting" money but my current and previous Camries run over 200K /50K(new camry) without a hitch.

Comments?

 

maybe the gas in that country is shitty full of stuff inside. dont expect every country to have 87 octane and be really cleane . i use the best fuel i can find wherever i need to fill up my accord, and one reason i do it is because i get better miles than crappy lower gas type.

 

yeah, maybe their gasoline sucks.
I would praise the U.S for designing these cars to use 87 octane fuel.
Which shows even the less sofisticated fuels can power a 4 or 6cyl engine.

 

I believe also that it's the gasoline quality. There are so many restrictions and such high standards for everything in the US that our 87 might be of the same quality as their 91 as far as the amount of "junk" in it.

 

In Russia most of imports required 92 minimum and latest models 95 only.
Also there is a 98 grade. I know for a fact if I would put 87 octane gasoline in my Accord over there, I would make maybe whole 50 miles
So I think there are different standards in different countries.
Here I put 93 in my car and some times 89.

 

I try to stay around the 90 octane mark.

New Zealanders call themselves Kiwi's so lets nat take their ideas abotu gas and such too seriously ;-)

 

FYI - - Euro gas and is MUCH better quality then US. That is why it is $4 per gallon. The gas that we use is the crappy one.
As for New Zealand - I think their gas is better as well. Most countries (developed countries) have HIGHER gas/polution standards then us. That goes not just for gas but also for industrial polution. US (for example) withdrew from Kyoto agreement (which EU has signed) which regulated decrease of industrial emission gases.

For those who had never been to Europe (EU) don't be so quick to presume that their anyting is lower quality then in the US. Most things sold there have to conform to much higher standars. Didn't you ever wonder how come that US cars barely sell there?

Russia - I don't know. There is a lot of corruption there and environment is not a concern (not really) so I would not comment on quality of their fuel.

 

There would be riots in the street if we tell people that they have to put 92 octane as a minimum on their v8 Explorers or chevy trucks so they can drive to work in bumper to bumper traffic while talking on their cells and/or putting make up on. We are driven by economics not the environment. NZ has had a "clean air" policy for years and this is part of that. Other countries are probably way ahead of us as well. My guess is cars have to run on cleaner fuel so I assume car manufacturers tune their car engines for that market and for the minimum octane and that is why they ask for 92 there.

 

why in the hell would anybody complain about someone designing an engine that gives you all the power, efficiency, and reliablity you'd ever want or need, and have it run on 87 octane? that's a tribute to honda's engineering. if you go look at nissan, toyota, and a bunch of other V6's out there, most of them that put out any kind of power have to run premium...that's one of the main draws to the accord's V6. you get all that power, etc. and dont have to spend extra money on higher gas prices for no reason. gasoline is high enough as it is, why would you wanna pay more? and that overseas gas being better than US gas because it's $4 a gallon has nothing to do with quality. all gas is pretty much refined the same way. the main causes to price are the markets their in, taxes, fees associated with production, and the price of crude (that's the biggest one) all gasoline begins as sweet or sour crude, so it's all the same crap. if an engine here can put out 240hp, on regular pump gas but overseas it has to run on their 94 octane, that's not a knock on the engine at all. that's attributed to different emissions laws, and the way the engines have to be tuned accordingly. i just feel sorry for the people that have to pay for 94 octane. and for you guys thinking u're doin somethin by using 94 octane, you're not. honda recommends 87 for a reason. they designed the engine to run on 87, so by using 94 you're not helping it at all, and could possibly confuse the sensors and other minor things in the engine. and there's no performance bump for using 94, all it does is give you some way to feel good about yourself because you pay more money for gas haha. the best gas to use if not 87 is mid grade 89... if you're putting 94 into a car that doesn't call for it, you're basically just paying extra so you can say you put 94 in your car. 89 may give you a slight performance advantage, and be better for the engine than 87, but it's still close enough to 87 to work fine with the engine. and i dont mean to burst anyone else's bubbles in here...but i know some people are real picky about what gas station they use... citgo, chevron, conoco, exxon, shell, whatever...it's actually all the same gas lol i work at a citgo refinery, and even tho you may go to a conoco or shell station out here, it's more than likely citgo, or some mix with it. same thing at a citgo station, it may be exxon gas. all those companies get gas from each other. once it's in a pipeline, there's no way to tell where that gas came from. it all gets mixed together. especially an any cities with multiple refineries. chevron sometimes will buy gas from citgo or conoco then just add their techron and stuff and up the price one you, but it's all coming from the same place. so you might as well just buy gas where ever it's the cheapest, and use what your car is designed for. otherwise you're just wasting money so you can have the satisfaction of knowing you paid more than you had to haha

 

Are you sure that New Zealand uses the same octane rating system that we do?

Guys...go read what octane actually is. Higher octane does not necessarily mean better performance or smoother operation. In fact, it usually means the opposite.

Accord2005NJ...dude seriously go read what octane actually does. It has nothing to do with how long your engine lasts :slap: Do what the owner's manual tells you. And please explain to me what the horrendous Kyoto agreement has to do with this thread. Gas is not $4 there because it's "higher quality"...that's absolutely asinine. Go read up on octane.