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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenixitc
The springs are gray in color which is the color for the OE's. The H&R sports are black, according to their website information.

I am considering going back to the original springs and keeping the Konis at the lowest perch setting. Per another Koni guy, this will drop the car about 1inch and maintain a normal ride.
Yeah, my Sport spring are a very dark gray, so probably what they call "black". I'd play with the different perches and see what you get. When you/mechanic take off the shocks, measure the difference in perch heights. That'd suprise me if you really get 1" drop out of the shocks. Mine would only give .5" with the shocks alone.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 03:21 AM
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I'm taking the car in this Friday to have it redone. I have until then to decide on the two options. The mechanic is not a fan of H&R springs. His experience led him to stop selling them for his BMW tuning customers. His experience indicated that the drop amount was not reliable based on H&R advertising.
My options are:
Keep the H&R springs and simply raise the Konis' perch setting, or leave the Konis on the lowest setting and go back to factory springs.
My concern is if the Konis only raise up .5", the rear will still be too low.

I checked out the H&R part number on the box, they are -55, the OEs.

Another concern is if I can back to factory springs, the mechanic wants to cut the bump stops in the rear just a little. I don't understand suspension mechanics so I'm not sure why he wants to do this.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by phoenixitc
I'm taking the car in this Friday to have it redone. I have until then to decide on the two options. The mechanic is not a fan of H&R springs. His experience led him to stop selling them for his BMW tuning customers. His experience indicated that the drop amount was not reliable based on H&R advertising.
My options are:
Keep the H&R springs and simply raise the Konis' perch setting, or leave the Konis on the lowest setting and go back to factory springs.
My concern is if the Konis only raise up .5", the rear will still be too low.

I checked out the H&R part number on the box, they are -55, the OEs.

Another concern is if I can back to factory springs, the mechanic wants to cut the bump stops in the rear just a little. I don't understand suspension mechanics so I'm not sure why he wants to do this.
My H&R's have given the advertised drop, haven't had a problem, so I dunno. I haven't heard anyone once else on Honda boards complain either, so who knows.

Your perches may be further apart than mine, that's why I was saying measure them when it gets taken apart.

As far as the bumpstops go, it's weird that he wants to cut them with the stock springs. Usually that's something you do when you are lowered enough that the bumpstop will interfere with suspension travel (bottoming out). If he was gonna cut a bit off it would have been if you were going to be lowered 1.5"-2" or more, not .5" with stock springs and Konis.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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Perhaps I need to get a second mechanic's opinion. I'm a little concerned that he didn't relate Koni's requirement to leave the shocks at standard height if using lowering springs.
I called H&R. The tech wants me to get the part number directly from the springs. He wants to confirm I have the correct springs, regardless of what the box shows. He stated that the total drop for a 95 Accord should be only .25". He also stated to not touch the bump stops, contrary to what my mechanic is thinking about. I guess we'll find out this Friday.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 03:11 AM
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Took the car in and had the rear struts move to the top setting. Recovered almost 2". The car has a slight rake since I left the front struts on the lower perch setting. I'll decide on leaving the rears on the top setting once I put on 17s, might want to go to the middle perch. The ride has improved and now is nicely firm, less roll in the corners, and very little dive whilst braking. I'll probably turn the struts down to near softest setting, currently set at one full turn off of softest.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 03:59 AM
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2 inches? Wow...is that really how far apart those perches are...1inch? Mine are only about .25" apart.

Either way, glad it's better for you.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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Correct, the measurement is .25" per perch setting but I think I springs had more drop than advertised. Perhaps I also just have really thick fingers, it might be closer to 1.5"
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jschmid
That'd suprise me if you really get 1" drop out of the shocks. Mine would only give .5" with the shocks alone.
i got about .5" from my koni SP3s too. i used the 2nd lowest perch in front so that added maybe another .5" to my pro-kit's 1.2" drop for ~2.2" total. it's too low for me so i'm raising it back to the middle/stock perch in front. my rears are on the middle perch too and the drop seems to be almost 2".


phoenixitc, it turns out that shocks may lower 94-95s more than 96-97s because perch and spring heights are different:
http://board.hondasociety.com/showth...threadid=81465 (warning: loooooooong thread)
http://www.accordinglydone.com/forum...=&postid=18887
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 06:04 AM
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Thanks for the links, Calbearz24. I spoke with a tech guy at H&R. The H&R OE springs are the same for 90-97 and do result in a different drop. I freaked for a few minutes when I saw a different part number printed on the springs versus on the box. My front looks just a little higher than the photo on the left. My rear is about two fingers higher. I actually like the slight raked stance so I can put my twins in the back seat and know I won't bottom out. This confusion cost me an extra $100 which sucks but at least the car is driveable with the parts I bought. Having Koni Sports and H&R OE springs combo works for me.
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