6th gen rear brake drum to disk conversion??
I want to get discs in the back if the stopping power will be increased significantly. What I would like t know is if I get a steel brake line kit for the rear disc accords will that be enough to hook up the back brakes. I can look in a shop manual to find the necessary parts but I want to know if hooking it up will be a problem. Also what are good doner vehcles? Are the acuras any different in the brake department? TL-S maybe?
Also I'd like to improve the front stopping power. Any recommendations in this department are welcome.
I don't have ABS, will this be a problem?
Also I'd like to improve the front stopping power. Any recommendations in this department are welcome.
I don't have ABS, will this be a problem?
bump .... does the i4 ex have disks? Also is the front on v6 the same as i4? Will a brake line kit for 4 disk work with stock i4 front? and will it hook up to the rear lines leading to the brakes?
All 6th gen EX's come with rear discs. The V6 fronts are bigger, but won't work unless you swap the whole spindles cause they are 5 lug.
You can swap out just the rear spindles with an I4 EX so you have discs, but don't expect braking to really improve. The ideal situation would be to get the rear spindles, lines, ebrake cable (which you'd need anyway) then also get the EX master cylinder, etc. But because you don't have ABS it won't be exactly like the EX brake system. I have no problem locking up my LX brakes lol...so I don't really see the need for greater braking force in the rear...sticker tires is really the only thing to decrease braking distance at full clamping force. More aggressive pads can help braking as long as you can modulate the pedal yourself. Braided lines give a firmer feel, and can reduce brake fade, but it's still up to modulating the brake pedal on LX's.
I don't blame you for wanting to swap though...I've thought about doing it too, just to get rid of the ugly drums out back. It's not so bad with stock wheels, but when you put lightweight 18's on there, it really shows off the ugly drums.
You can swap out just the rear spindles with an I4 EX so you have discs, but don't expect braking to really improve. The ideal situation would be to get the rear spindles, lines, ebrake cable (which you'd need anyway) then also get the EX master cylinder, etc. But because you don't have ABS it won't be exactly like the EX brake system. I have no problem locking up my LX brakes lol...so I don't really see the need for greater braking force in the rear...sticker tires is really the only thing to decrease braking distance at full clamping force. More aggressive pads can help braking as long as you can modulate the pedal yourself. Braided lines give a firmer feel, and can reduce brake fade, but it's still up to modulating the brake pedal on LX's.
I don't blame you for wanting to swap though...I've thought about doing it too, just to get rid of the ugly drums out back. It's not so bad with stock wheels, but when you put lightweight 18's on there, it really shows off the ugly drums.
So I would need the rear e-brake cable? How about the other cables. Are they in the same position as the lx's. What I mean is if i get a steel line kit for rear disks will that cover the brake line needs? Is the master cylinder necessary or where u saying thats for abs?
I just don't see why my car doesn't like to stop like the new 03's do. The Nrakes don't look much larger if at all and abs can't be the reason since i'm not talking about mashing the pedal here. My dad keeps telling me its couse he has disks and I have drums, but I doubt thats entirelly true.
The ex front brakes are the same right? I would like to get a brembo 4 wheel brake kit since my front rotors could use a replacement.
I just don't see why my car doesn't like to stop like the new 03's do. The Nrakes don't look much larger if at all and abs can't be the reason since i'm not talking about mashing the pedal here. My dad keeps telling me its couse he has disks and I have drums, but I doubt thats entirelly true.
The ex front brakes are the same right? I would like to get a brembo 4 wheel brake kit since my front rotors could use a replacement.
Originally Posted by polakatl
So I would need the rear e-brake cable? How about the other cables. Are they in the same position as the lx's. What I mean is if i get a steel line kit for rear disks will that cover the brake line needs? Is the master cylinder necessary or where u saying thats for abs?
I just don't see why my car doesn't like to stop like the new 03's do. The Nrakes don't look much larger if at all and abs can't be the reason since i'm not talking about mashing the pedal here. My dad keeps telling me its couse he has disks and I have drums, but I doubt thats entirelly true.
The ex front brakes are the same right? I would like to get a brembo 4 wheel brake kit since my front rotors could use a replacement.
I just don't see why my car doesn't like to stop like the new 03's do. The Nrakes don't look much larger if at all and abs can't be the reason since i'm not talking about mashing the pedal here. My dad keeps telling me its couse he has disks and I have drums, but I doubt thats entirelly true.
The ex front brakes are the same right? I would like to get a brembo 4 wheel brake kit since my front rotors could use a replacement.
When you say Brembo's you just mean the OEM replacement blanks right? Cause those will work, cause you'll have EX spindles with calipers, just like putting them on an EX.
The EX ebrake cable is different near the rear discs, but the same near the ebrake handle. I don't know if the line has fittings in the middle so that you can still use part of the LX cable, and then swap out the second half to the EX, or if you need the whole thing.
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jschmid explained pretty much everything.. i'll just give a quick review of stainless steel brake lines.. it reduces fade under several hard braking such as road course racing.. other than that, it adds the benefit of a more direct brake feel.. you actually feel a larger range of modulation. the amount of pedal input will show in the amount of braking the car does..
Quick illustration:
Pedal input in a range of 1-10
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
What the braking system applies on stock lines:
1 2 2 3 3 4 7 7 8 8
with the stainless steel brake lines, you have better control of how much braking is applied and better feel.
Quick illustration:
Pedal input in a range of 1-10
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
What the braking system applies on stock lines:
1 2 2 3 3 4 7 7 8 8
with the stainless steel brake lines, you have better control of how much braking is applied and better feel.
All 6th gen EX's come with rear discs. The V6 fronts are bigger, but won't work unless you swap the whole spindles cause they are 5 lug.
You can swap out just the rear spindles with an I4 EX so you have discs, but don't expect braking to really improve. The ideal situation would be to get the rear spindles, lines, ebrake cable (which you'd need anyway) then also get the EX master cylinder, etc. But because you don't have ABS it won't be exactly like the EX brake system. I have no problem locking up my LX brakes lol...so I don't really see the need for greater braking force in the rear...sticker tires is really the only thing to decrease braking distance at full clamping force. More aggressive pads can help braking as long as you can modulate the pedal yourself. Braided lines give a firmer feel, and can reduce brake fade, but it's still up to modulating the brake pedal on LX's.
I don't blame you for wanting to swap though...I've thought about doing it too, just to get rid of the ugly drums out back. It's not so bad with stock wheels, but when you put lightweight 18's on there, it really shows off the ugly drums.
You can swap out just the rear spindles with an I4 EX so you have discs, but don't expect braking to really improve. The ideal situation would be to get the rear spindles, lines, ebrake cable (which you'd need anyway) then also get the EX master cylinder, etc. But because you don't have ABS it won't be exactly like the EX brake system. I have no problem locking up my LX brakes lol...so I don't really see the need for greater braking force in the rear...sticker tires is really the only thing to decrease braking distance at full clamping force. More aggressive pads can help braking as long as you can modulate the pedal yourself. Braided lines give a firmer feel, and can reduce brake fade, but it's still up to modulating the brake pedal on LX's.
I don't blame you for wanting to swap though...I've thought about doing it too, just to get rid of the ugly drums out back. It's not so bad with stock wheels, but when you put lightweight 18's on there, it really shows off the ugly drums.

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