By loud I mean that you will never not realize you have an exhaust on your car. The first night I had my classic system, I drove my girlfriend back to her school and it's about an hour drive. The whole time I was wishing I had volume control for it and we both had headaches when we got there. It either quieted down a little or I got more used to it but it was still always noticeable. I converted mine to a stealth system about 8 months ago. It cost $40 (basically all the shipping costs). UPS picks it up at your house, the weld an internal silencer inside and polish the muffler section (all you send back) and ship it back. It still sounds really nice and deep, it's just not as bad. It's still a little louder than I want and I've been thinking of switching to something a little more subtle. I've never gotten a ticket or pulled over for my exhaust but aside from driving 15 over the limit on the highway all the time I don't give the police any reason to bother me.

The thermal's on my '98 EX. If your interested in it, email me at andy@divizion.com and we'll discuss it.