I try not do anymore price research now, cuz i'll just get depressed. I'll be happy knowing I got a good car. Oh yeah, we got the price down almost 2k from what was listed on the windshield...so i know we did our best to haggle. we were straight backing out of our parking spot ready to leave (semi-bluffing we would have come back the next day) when the sales dude was running after us telling us he was willing to negotiate with our requests...that was funny