ehh i bet i could get them off in 30 minutes with no damage to the rims, its called 19mm socket hammered over the lugs and then twisted off once they are bit in. ive had to take off so many lock nuts by people who have lost their keys, worst ones are the ones that come stock with integra's now a days their keys break or wear down after just a few removals especially when people at shops use those damn air ratchets to crank the sh!t out of ur nuts, no air wratchets for my nuts thank u