alright, after a lot of negative feed back about hte borbet type s rims ive decided not to get them, although im still looking for rims, im running on a somewhat tight budget so keep that in mind. but if anyone lives in new york and is willing to sell me rims w/ tires that look nice on a black honda civic ex tell me. you can im me on aim at aLLiSteR 018 if you want to.

ps the reason that im so interested in other people's opinions is because i see a lot of cars around here that have certain rims. or wings, or mufflers etc that the driver may like, but all it gets them is a reputation for having a stupid looking car, and id rather not be the guy that everyone makes fun of.