Well, as for the 97 lude I called the guy back and offered him $10,500. Thats all I have. He got it down to just under 11k, but didnt want to go any lower. That was Friday afternoon. So he may or may not call back. If not its no big deal, I'm still looking for a lude. And honostly I dont care if its 5spd or auto. I've driven both and would be fine with both. At least the auto would help prevent me from dumping thousands into it in mods.