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Old 09-08-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Idle surge, I've tried a bunch of things...

I have an idle surge. I have no CELs. I cleaned the IACV and the FITV. I tried the FITV fix by threading in the plunger. So today I cut out some gasket material and sandwiched it in between the FITV and bypassed the coolant lines. I still have a surge.

Do I need to put nippes on the coolant lines that I bypassed? I figured I shouldn't have to. I pull 25hg vacuum at idle so I doubt it's a leak. I'm totally stumped and the shit is really annoying. Any ideas?
Old 09-08-2007, 02:10 PM
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Some people have idle issues when using large injectors, maybe that has something to do with it. :dunno:
Old 09-08-2007, 02:14 PM
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take of your intake put your finger over the tps and see if it stops the idle surge if it does thats your problem. thats only if its surging while the car is started. now if its surging when u push the gas pedel down could have water in the gas..
Old 09-08-2007, 03:29 PM
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i know you have looked at a bunch of stuff but.. did u check the simple things, like the idle screw on the throttle body?
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Originally Posted by Running925
i know you have looked at a bunch of stuff but.. did u check the simple things, like the idle screw on the throttle body?
It did it a while ago. I did a base idle adjustment recently and it still does it.

And I think the TPS is good, it doesn't do anything sktechy when I'm datalogging.
Old 09-08-2007, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Running925
i know you have looked at a bunch of stuff but.. did u check the simple things, like the idle screw on the throttle body?
There just 450s i dunno. it's weird..

I don't think I have a vacuum leak anywhere, it really sounds like a FITV problem.

But, putting a layer of that gasket material shit in between the fitv and throttle body and mounting it technically would be the same as a FITV delete, am I right?

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Some people have idle issues when using large injectors, maybe that has something to do with it. :dunno:
Old 09-08-2007, 09:25 PM
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Does it do it when hot, cold, or all the time?
Old 09-08-2007, 09:31 PM
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bleed the coolant? and like wharbone asked is it temp sensitive?
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Ok, I'll try to cover everything.

It doesn't really do it when it's cold, it doesn't do it when it's hot untill after you move the car. It could idle for ever but as soon as you go it will do it. Maybe even hitting the gas at idle, I just thought about that... If I put it in reverse and back up it'll sit at like 1000, go down to 800 or so sit for about 15 seconds then start doing it... So could it be the TPS? What should the voltage or % be at idle?

If something would throw a damn CEL it'd be a lot easier.
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
Ok, I'll try to cover everything.

It doesn't really do it when it's cold, it doesn't do it when it's hot untill after you move the car. It could idle for ever but as soon as you go it will do it. Maybe even hitting the gas at idle, I just thought about that... If I put it in reverse and back up it'll sit at like 1000, go down to 800 or so sit for about 15 seconds then start doing it... So could it be the TPS? What should the voltage or % be at idle?

If something would throw a damn CEL it'd be a lot easier.
how dirty is your throttle plate?



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