Worth It??
yeah, theres so many of them, in my opinion there the honda civic of american cars. come from the factory slow as balls and tons of idiots get them and mod the shit outta them. mustangs are kinda ugly, but its simple to throw a holset turbo on one and make tons of horsepower and torque, but then u get a car that is even worse in the turns.
yeah, theres so many of them, in my opinion there the honda civic of american cars. come from the factory slow as balls and tons of idiots get them and mod the shit outta them. mustangs are kinda ugly, but its simple to throw a holset turbo on one and make tons of horsepower and torque, but then u get a car that is even worse in the turns.
sorry nothing against mustangs excpet almost EVERY year the GT mustang was slower than the Z28 camaro....that tells me the camaro is superior....but i will admit dollar for dollar(as in dollar for hp) you cant beat mustang...hate to say it buts its true....ford is just cheaper...thats why they did away with the firebird and trans am line and finally the camaro line cuz EVERY year the mustang out sold firebird, trans am and camaro COMBINED
Last edited by Mugenfreak; Dec 9, 2006 at 01:46 PM.
i copied and pasted to show what im talking about i compared year for year if the showed but z28 an gt model for same year or with in a 1 yr diff. faster one is in bold
0-60 1/4mile
1972 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 7.5 15.5
1974 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 8.1 15.4
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 H.O. 6.7 15.0
1990 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.5 15.0
1992 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.7 15.2
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.8 14.4
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2 14.5
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 13.7
1973 Ford Mustang 351ci 8.9 16.3
1974 Ford Mustang II 4sp 14.2 18.8
1975 Ford Mustang II (302ci V8 w/3spd) 9.6 17.5
1985 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 14.9 (C&D, Jan. 85)
1989 Ford Mustang GT 5.0l Manual 6.2 14.8 (MT Jan '89)
1991 Ford Mustang GT 7.3 15.6
1993 Ford Mustang GT (auto) 8.0 16.1
1994 Ford Mustang GT 6.1 14.9 (C&D Dec '93)
1999 Ford Mustang GT 5.5 14.1
source:
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
plus look at this in 1969 they had a camaro that could do the 1/4 mile in 11.68 seconds!! That was insane back then and still VERY fast for a factory car.
1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL-1 0-60mph-5.3 1/4 mile-11.68 (Book:Ultimate Performance Cars '05)
Overshadowing these dealer modified Camaros was the factory Camaro ZL1. Specially designed to compete in the NHRA Super Stock drag classes, Chevrolet made it an option under the COPO system (code 9560). The cars began as SS396/375bhp Camaros with the F41 suspension. The SS trim and engine were deleted, and the 427 engine, cowl-induction hood, front disc brakes, a choice of heavy duty 4 speed transmissions or Turbo Hydra-matic, and a 4:10 posi axle were added. But instead of the regular iron-block and head L72 found in the dealer installed Camaros, the ZL1 sported aluminum heads and the first aluminum block ever made by Chevrolet. It shared the L88 aluminum head/iron block's engine rating of 430 bhp but made closer to 500 bhp -- making it probably the most powerful engine Chevrolet ever offered to the public. And the engine weighed just 500 pounds, the same as Chevy's 327 small block. The car was blessed with a 5 year/50,000 mile warranty and was fully street legal. With factory exhausts and tires, it turned low 13s; with headers and slicks, it could turn 11.6s @ 122mph. This was the fastest car ever produced by Chevrolet. Performance had its price -- $4,160 for the ZL1 engine alone pushing the price of the Camaro ZL1 to an unbelieveable $7,200 (about double the price for a SS396 Camaro). Chevy needed to build 50 to qualify the car for racing, and in the end built 69 Camaros and 2 Corvettes with the ZL-1 engine. Their high price made them difficult to sell and at least 12 engines were removed and about 30 cars were returned back to Chevrolet. It took until the early 1970s to sell them all. One can only wonder what they are worth today.
0-60 1/4mile
1972 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 7.5 15.5
1974 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 8.1 15.4
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 H.O. 6.7 15.0
1990 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.5 15.0
1992 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.7 15.2
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.8 14.4
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2 14.5
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 13.7
1973 Ford Mustang 351ci 8.9 16.3
1974 Ford Mustang II 4sp 14.2 18.8
1975 Ford Mustang II (302ci V8 w/3spd) 9.6 17.5
1985 Ford Mustang GT 6.4 14.9 (C&D, Jan. 85)
1989 Ford Mustang GT 5.0l Manual 6.2 14.8 (MT Jan '89)
1991 Ford Mustang GT 7.3 15.6
1993 Ford Mustang GT (auto) 8.0 16.1
1994 Ford Mustang GT 6.1 14.9 (C&D Dec '93)
1999 Ford Mustang GT 5.5 14.1
source:
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html
plus look at this in 1969 they had a camaro that could do the 1/4 mile in 11.68 seconds!! That was insane back then and still VERY fast for a factory car.
1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL-1 0-60mph-5.3 1/4 mile-11.68 (Book:Ultimate Performance Cars '05)
Overshadowing these dealer modified Camaros was the factory Camaro ZL1. Specially designed to compete in the NHRA Super Stock drag classes, Chevrolet made it an option under the COPO system (code 9560). The cars began as SS396/375bhp Camaros with the F41 suspension. The SS trim and engine were deleted, and the 427 engine, cowl-induction hood, front disc brakes, a choice of heavy duty 4 speed transmissions or Turbo Hydra-matic, and a 4:10 posi axle were added. But instead of the regular iron-block and head L72 found in the dealer installed Camaros, the ZL1 sported aluminum heads and the first aluminum block ever made by Chevrolet. It shared the L88 aluminum head/iron block's engine rating of 430 bhp but made closer to 500 bhp -- making it probably the most powerful engine Chevrolet ever offered to the public. And the engine weighed just 500 pounds, the same as Chevy's 327 small block. The car was blessed with a 5 year/50,000 mile warranty and was fully street legal. With factory exhausts and tires, it turned low 13s; with headers and slicks, it could turn 11.6s @ 122mph. This was the fastest car ever produced by Chevrolet. Performance had its price -- $4,160 for the ZL1 engine alone pushing the price of the Camaro ZL1 to an unbelieveable $7,200 (about double the price for a SS396 Camaro). Chevy needed to build 50 to qualify the car for racing, and in the end built 69 Camaros and 2 Corvettes with the ZL-1 engine. Their high price made them difficult to sell and at least 12 engines were removed and about 30 cars were returned back to Chevrolet. It took until the early 1970s to sell them all. One can only wonder what they are worth today.
Last edited by Mugenfreak; Dec 9, 2006 at 01:45 PM.



ive been thinking of selling mine and going to something rwd, maybe a BMW or an s2k