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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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This was the first time I changed my clutch. I installed one of these OEM replacements: http://tinyurl.com/9swue from gripforce.

I also replaced the clutch master and slave cylinders and greased up everything that required it.

Now, I have about 150 miles on the new clutch and it's engaging a little better than right after I installed it but there's still a problem. It engages kind of high. It's fully engaged when the clutch pedal is almost all the way up. The freeplay in the pedal is about 1/2" right now. If I give it more freeplay 3/4 to 1" it starts flopping around too loose, the rod, the pedal assembly and everything in there is making noises when I use the clutch pedal and it just seems too loose to me compared to a brand new car. Brand new civics have smaller freeplay and they still engage lower. How can I make my eg work the same way? Btw, it's a 92 dx hatch.

Everything was installed properly. Can someone suggest how to go about fixing this? Basically, I want lower engagement point without the floppy pedal (less freeplay) and original pedal height. How do I accomplish this?

As the clutch gets broken in will it start engaging even higher or lower?
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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I think it probably has something to do with the new cynlinders. Did you bleed them properly?
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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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How do you bleed them properly? I don't think you have to bench bleed it like a brake master cylinder. What I did was empty the fluid from the clutch line. Remove both slave and masters. Then put the new slave and master. Fill with fluid. Start bleeding and adding fluid as needed. There were no bubbles coming out but I'm not sure if I've completely bled the thing. Maybe I need to bleed it more or I didn't bleed it correctly.

What's the proper bleeding procedure for a 92 civic hatch?

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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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You bleed the clutch just like you would a brake, only it's easier becasue there is only one line. You need a buddy. Have a friend press the clutch pedal to the floor and leave it there. when the pedal is down, you loosen the bleed bolt on the slave cylinder and let it bleed for a few seconds (don't get brake fluid in your eyes). Tighten the bolt and have your friend take his/her foot off the pedal and then back to the floor. You then loosen the bolt and bleed again. Do this over and over 10-15 times. KEEP AN EYE ON THE LEVEL OF FLUID IN THE MASTER CYLINDER, it will go down fast and will need to be refilled. DONT LET THE LEVEL GET LOW AND LET AIR IN. Also, make sure the person helping you doesn't take their foot off until you have the bleeder bolt retightened! Wash up and go for a test drive. Bleed more if you need. Make sure you wash any brake fluid off of your paint because it will eat paint.

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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Thank you, I've been bleeding clutch by myself but I'll try it with a buddy.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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The best way is to put a clear line on the nipple and put the other end in a bottle/cup of fluid that way when it sucks back in it will suck up fluid and not air. When there is no more bubbles in the line your done. I did it all by my lonesome this way. This pic should help you get the idea. Just make sure to keep the line submerged and keep the resivoir full or you risk sucking more air into the system.
(note I didn't have a clear line so I used a black hose, a clear line will allow you to see the air bubbles)

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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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That's how I did it the first time around. After I did it with a buddy though it works MUCH better. Basically, we did it the same way as the brakes. He holds the clutch down, I open bleeder, then close it and he pulls the pedal. Then repeat. Seems like there's no more air in the system.

As far as the clutch pedal adjustment goes. How do you guys know where to set it especially on a new clutch?
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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I didn't adjust mine.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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I didn't adjust mine either.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Anyone know how to adjust it properly? Feel, measurements, anything that has to be followed for a proper adjustment?

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