B16a Tuning / Timing problems
Whats up people... Hope you guys *and gals* can help me out here:
I have a b16a in my 89 Civic and am having problems with getting it running right. It is far from stock...
I recently blew the head and just swapped in a new head that has a stage 1 P&P and all Ferrea valve train. It is sitting on a stock block with a Spoon head gasket... I have stock cams with adjustable gears, AEBS intake manny, Toda TB, and all MSD standalone ignition.
Sounds nice right? Heres my problem... I cannot get it to run stable. The closest ive gotten is by advancing the timing 10 degrees intake & exhaust, and still it is nowhere near stock timing the mark on the pulley. At best it is a little short of the TDC mark.
What am I doing wrong here? I haven't worked on a honda motor in a couple years and have gotton somewhat Chevy 350 brainwashed... so it is tough getting back into the swing of things. It used to run so strong, and now it barely idles. Any help is greatly appreciated...
-Terry
I have a b16a in my 89 Civic and am having problems with getting it running right. It is far from stock...
I recently blew the head and just swapped in a new head that has a stage 1 P&P and all Ferrea valve train. It is sitting on a stock block with a Spoon head gasket... I have stock cams with adjustable gears, AEBS intake manny, Toda TB, and all MSD standalone ignition.
Sounds nice right? Heres my problem... I cannot get it to run stable. The closest ive gotten is by advancing the timing 10 degrees intake & exhaust, and still it is nowhere near stock timing the mark on the pulley. At best it is a little short of the TDC mark.
What am I doing wrong here? I haven't worked on a honda motor in a couple years and have gotton somewhat Chevy 350 brainwashed... so it is tough getting back into the swing of things. It used to run so strong, and now it barely idles. Any help is greatly appreciated...
-Terry
first make sure the marks line up, slap a stock cam gear on it just for reference to line it up. also question how the msd is wired, also do a cylinder leakdown test and make sure them valves were seated . if it is choking (200 rpm lugging) ,make sure your fuel regulator is vaccumed to the manifold and the map is tubbed to the throttle body correct port. if that fails, read some mary poppins.
Set your cam gears to 0 take of the belt and start from scratch. Line both gears facing up as good as you can. Make sure your crank pulley is at TDC. Now take your belt and put it around your crank pulley make sure it is tight pull it up and over your Exhaust cam take a pair of clamping pliers and clamp it inplace make sure it is tight. Then pull it over the next pulley and make sure they are both still facing up as best as you can get them clmap that one down to the pulley as well. All you have to do is make sure you get it around the water pump and tensioner with out it coming off then your done. Turn the crank pulley around 3 or 4 times to get everything to settle right check to see how close to TDC the cam pulleys are. Make sure you can turn your belt about 90 degree but it is still tight. Then all you have to do is adjust the cams from there and hopefully you are just a few degrees out.
I have had the same problem in the past .my set up was little more aggressive, but i'll tell what i did to fix it .to even get my car to stay running half way decent i had it advaced 7 deg/ i end up switching from stock inj to 550cc inj which helped a lot and running a hondata system she runs like a dream now /make sure you check your fuel and ignition system before any big purchases it could be something simple
Thanks Steven... I did what you had suggested already yesterday without reading this but you were right on the money. I just had to go back to basics. I wasn't looking at the whole picture you know? :-D I must have slipped a tooth on the belt because back to square one and it runs ok with stock timing. Now I just need to tune it.
Thanks again fellas
Thanks again fellas


