145Hp and 127ft-lbs @9.4:1 comp ratio for the LS (b18b) and it weighs in at 75lbs less than h22.

the b18b is a good choice i think cause you can always turbo it if you want to, but if you run out of money for suspension upgrades it wont total you cars performance.

 

http://forums.hybridgarage.com/showf...b=5&o=14&part=

So you know what youd get into and review at the bottom

That guy used to visit my main forum board awhile ago...very good guy

 

Cool thanks.. I need all the info I can get!

 

the h22 isn't 75lbs more than the b18b, it's more like 45

 

What is making you shy away from the B16?

Sure the H makes more power, but you have much less aftermarket support.. that damn autotensioner, pick up some pricey mounts and the swap is more difficult. You have to deal w/the shift linkage etc.. amongst other things I'm sure I'm forgetting.

..Is it a big deal, no. But it's more to deal w/regardless.

Eventhough the H isn't significantly heavier than the B. The motor wasn't designed to go in that bay, so the weight distribution in the car will be different. Whether or not the H swapped vehicle's distribution would be better or worse, I cannot comment for sure, but I'm leaning toward the latter statement..

From my experience it seems like the H swap sits more toward the front of the vehicle and wasn't centralized in the bay (from side to side) which is something you would not want from a handling standpoint.

All these things are minor details, and probobly would not be too noticeable on lap times but it's something to consider.

The H is a great swap, don't get me wrong. I have a friend w/this swap, and that car has torque for days.. But I personally would stick w/the B-series and enjoy a wide variety of aftermarket parts, and a somewhat headache free swap

The LS is another great option, but only if it's boosted.. the question you have to ask is if you have the time/resources/knowledge to actually make it there. I think you'd end up being dissapointed in the LS in NA form..

You know you can afford the B16, and it already offers decent power in stock form...

 

I wouldnt even bother with the b16, its a hype motor for the most part. I have the swap so I know. Sure it is fun to rev and get on, but I wouldnt get anything less than a b18c if you are gonna swap a B. As far as the H is concerned, with the proper setup, you can get the handling right on. The motor isnt that much heavier with some weight management such as placing the battery in the trunk. Personally, my next project is an H swap. I have driven my b16, and my roommates b18c swapped civic, and I find the b18c to be slightly more exciting, but nothing that amazingly insane ins STOCK form. I think the H just has a bad wrap because of its slightly more complicated install procedure, and the previous unavailability of quality mounts and suitable axles.

 

There is a ton of aftermarket support for the H22. I have been looking and this more out there than people are willing to admitt.

Skunk 2, Eagle, Hasport, Dartman, AEM, MSD, Hondata and various others are out there.

 

Maybe I've been out of the loop for a while. But I'd still say it's safe to say the B-series have far more options..

Just for example.. name a decent header for the H series that doesn't cost a fortune. The DC doesn't make any gains, the kamikaze is designed for supercharged setups.. other than that you've got the high dollar headers like SMSP, AN-R etc.

The B-series has several cheap headers JDM ITR, JDM DC, Comptech. etc etc. But it also has the high dollar players, toda, spoon etc.

 

I agree with Function, what he says is true and make alot of sense.

B16 is all hype? If someone buys anything for 'hype' then they are buying for the wrong reason to begin with. h:

I've driven H22 cars, and they are fun, lots of power. But keep in mind, H motors were designed to lean a certain way, and Civic's weren't designed to hold motors in the that way..

I'd play it safe, get a B-series, you won't regret it.

 

I used to own a 94 Accord, I put the H22 in it and it was a big difference from the SOHC to the DOHC. but in a civic the engine is way more heavier than any B-series engine and will be an extremly snug fit. plus you would have to go with an obd I H22 which really isnt as good as the OBD II H22 power rate ratio loss, HP gain. the engine also was set in a manner that was a longer more heavier vehicle, which the civic unfortunally is not. all in all H22 great engine, putting it anything else than a prelude or Accord well let me put it this way if you only plan on going staright, great but as a daily driver and going fast in every kind of direction not a great idea.