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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 07:54 PM
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hey i was going to change my rear drum breaks but then after i took them out. i realized that lordco gave us the wrong size.. they were way too big. so i put the brakes back on and everything but now my brakes are really really soft and the car finally stops if i basically press the pedal in all the way. and the e brake works only if i pull it all the way up to the top (12 clicks). (it would have stopped around middle before, ie 6 clicks)

can anyone tell me or show me somewhere on how i can tweak my brakes so that they would grab near front part of the pedal push and tell me how to bleed my brakes?

thanks a whole lot. i'm getting the right brake shoes tomorrow
93 civic sedan canadian lx
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 07:57 PM
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you have to recompress the deally and bleed the brakes or they work for **** after that.
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 07:58 PM
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whoops, to bleed the brakes there is a rubber capped nipple around the back of the hub, you take like a 12mm socket and open that up and let air bubbles come out, then you close it and have someone pump the brakes till theyre hard....

then open it while they apply firm and even pressure.

then close it

let them pump the brakes


open it and let the bubbles out

continue till the pedal is firm and no air releases, repeat for each wheel you worked on.

btw, the reason is air is highly compressable while fluid is nearly impossible to compress.
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by fujiwara takumi
you have to recompress the deally
thanks a lot for the quick reply.
whats a deally though...
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by frank


thanks a lot for the quick reply.
whats a deally though...
wheel cylinder. its like a cylinder...on the wheel, it should be on the top of the hub pushing directly on the shoes if memory serves me, on the bottom, in contrast, are a pile of springs and such.
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 08:18 PM
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oh ok,. i know what you're talking about there, its like a double sided piston thing.
so how do i recompress it?
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by frank
oh ok,. i know what you're talking about there, its like a double sided piston thing.
so how do i recompress it?
c-clamp


and its called a wheel cylidner, theyre like 14 bucks, and they make a cool noise when you blow them off the backing plate.
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 08:24 PM
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ok ok . so to recap. i c clamp the cylinder. and then bleed the brakes? or do i c clamp the cylinder and put the brake shoes on, then bleed the brakes? i don't see how i can have the c clamps on after i put the shoes on? and is this recompressing the cylinder essential? what exactly does this do?, and the rubber nipple thing. is it at the top, left, bottom, right? is it pretty hard to miss?
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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its sort of like resetting the brakes and making them seat properly, right now the cylinder is extended to compensate for worn brakes, and also, when you remove the pads it kinda jacks some of this...

anyway, take it all apart, compress the cylinders, put it all back together, get the drum on and then the nipple is on the back of the hub i think.
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 08:35 PM
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oh so does the cylinder lock in when you clamp it down to reset like a one toothed ratchet?? then it springs out when you touch the pedals for the first time??
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