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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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Ok. I don't know the difference. I think shocks are struts and Im clue-less as to the difference between coils and coilovers.

What I want to do on my 94si hb is to lower the car slightly to remove the wheel gap -this can't be more than 1-1/2 in although I've not acutally measured it. What is the best way to do this w/out compromising the ride? Thanks
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Coils are just the springs. You can get either lowered springs or coil-overs.
Lowered springs simply lower the car by replacing the stock springs. Their downfall is that they are at a set height and you can't change the height at all once you put the lowered springs on.

Coil-overs have a threaded sleeve with a large nut that moves up and down on the sleeve. The spring sits on this sleeve so when you move the nut up on the sleeve, you make the suspension longer and you raise the car. Doing the opposite will lower the car. This make is easy to adjust the height of the ride so you can 'tune' your suspension to be the height that you want it to be.

Hope that helps man.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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Coils are not the spring . Well they kinda are but there not . The coil is the turns in the spring . I hope that makes sense
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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but coilovers will give a harsher ride then lowering springs. You sacrifice the ride quality for the adjustability. Just my .02
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 96GreenCivic
but coilovers will give a harsher ride then lowering springs. You sacrifice the ride quality for the adjustability. Just my .02
Not necessarily. Mated with the right strut combo, they can be much better than set springs.

I know what you're saying honura, but in this case I was just pointing out the verbage error.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by honura
Coils are not the spring . Well they kinda are but there not . The coil is the turns in the spring . I hope that makes sense
Retard. what an insightful observation. :slap:
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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Technically Coilvers do not equal a threaded sleve or threaded bodied shock, Most hondas came with coilovers from the factory, in technical speak a coilover is a shock/strut with a coil spring over it = coil over.

Most honda's have shocks, Strust designate a system where you have no upper control arm and the strut and uppser strut mount act as an upper control arm.


A Coil is one part of a coil spring, it takes several coil's to make a coild spring.

A good set of adjsutable perch threaded bodies mated with some good struts will give better perfromance and even a better over all ride than some lowering springs, however most lowering springs are progressive rate, which means the spring rate goes up as the spring compress's, this gives a better ride, but does sacrifice some performance, almost all adjsutable perch threaded bodies come with Linear rate springs, which mean they are a constant rate weather compressed or not, this can lead to a rougher ride if not dampened correctly.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Solracer
Technically Coilvers do not equal a threaded sleve or threaded bodied shock, Most hondas came with coilovers from the factory, in technical speak a coilover is a shock/strut with a coil spring over it = coil over.

Most honda's have shocks, Strust designate a system where you have no upper control arm and the strut and uppser strut mount act as an upper control arm.
Exactly, a coilover is a coil spring that is goes over the whole shock. A good example of this is the stock suspension.

I tend to call those "coilovers" with threaded nuts adjustable height springs.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Appreciate the replies. Gives me some information to make some choices. Thank you all again.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Solracer
Technically Coilvers do not equal a threaded sleve or threaded bodied shock, Most hondas came with coilovers from the factory, in technical speak a coilover is a shock/strut with a coil spring over it = coil over.
I thought about pointing that out, but I didn't want to further confuse the situation. :chuckles:
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