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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Back to the question at hand...

I believe some of the LX's came with smaller rotors on them. If memory serves me correctly, they were the non ABS rotors that were smaller. I think there are only two sizes available for the 96-98 civics. The best way to find out is to measure the diameter of your rotor. The smaller ones were 9.6(?) inches and the bigger ones were over 10 inches.
I have the smaller sized rotors on my car. I replaced them with brembo blanks after a poor quality set of aftermarket pads messed up my OEM rotors. I now have the brembos with OEM pads, braded hoses, and high temp brake fluid. At the rear, I'm running OEM shoes with brembo drums. As of yet, I have not had a problem with them. They work nice stop the car when I need to at an affordable price. ($50 for the rotors, $30 for the pads, $20 for the shoes, $70 for the drums, $120 for the hoses, $10 for the fluid)
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Solracer
Would you like me to dig up picturw\es of cracked power slot rotrs? I have bunch's ,Drilling weakens any rotor, I have pictures of cracked Porsche 959 rotors down to cross drilled civic rotors.
power SLOT and power STOP are TWO DIFFERENT COMPANY'S

I said:

http://www.power****stop****brakes.com/
reading > you

now, then....

Cross Drilled rotors do not decrease stopping distance, no one has ever been able to proves this. Cross Drilled rotors do improve pedal feel, but improved pedal fell does not equal improved stopping distance.
perhaps your should re-read this artical:

http://www.off-road.com/isuzu/womb_brakes.html

but wait, you can't distinguish SLOT from STOP, so why would I expect you to read a test of different 60-0 and 70-0 stops with trucks with huge tires and the like..... I know, they're trucks, but disk brakes are disk brakes.....

If you took your car with brand new autozone Blanks pads and fluid; measured the stopping distance it would be the same or less than your car with crossdilled rotors with the same pads and new fluid.
fluid is another great upgrade. No one ever said it wasn't.

Read these pages http://www.stoptech.com/technical/ There is a lot of great information on brakes there, Willwod even says in the liturature that the cross drill the rotor for looks not to improve stopping distance...
according to that website:

Slotted:
1. Disc: Shallow, sharp edged but radiused bottom grooves milled into cast iron discs to provide leading edges for bite and a path for the fire band of gases and incandescent friction material to be dissipated through. If the slots fill up with pad material, the system is operating at too high a temperature.


so I guess slotted rotors do keep things cool....

also:

Properly designed, drilled discs tend to operate cooler than non-drilled ventilated discs of the same design due the higher flow rates through the vents from the supplemental inlets and increased surface area in the hole. That's right, inlets, the flow is into the hole and out through the vent to the OD of the disc.

again, if you were to buy apc rotors, you'd get cracking super easily.

I have never seen any one truly fade brakes driving on the street with good fluid, if you are then you are druving your crazier on the the street than any one. With good fluid and good pads and new oem replacement rotors my stopping power of the del sol is awesome. But what do I know I only drive on Road Course for 15 to 20 min sessions where I am constaly brakeing from 110 to 45 mph for 10 to 20 laps... and I have yet to fade my stock brakes (with better pads and Dot 5.1 fluid)
but what about new pads, new c-d/s rotors, and new brake fluid? :rick:

point is, I drive. Alot. I put close to an average 600 miles a week. I've had these for 10k miles with no problems. I know my car intimatly. I would know if these negativly effected me, and as it stands, they don't.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 06:11 AM
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Trust me I have pictures of Failed powerstop rotors, btw do you know where powerslot and powerstop gets its rotors from? Brembo, and I am not saying that putting cross drilled rotors is negativley affecting you car, I am saying you could do the same thing with brand new non slotted or cross drilled rotors.
It is true that holes do help cooling some, however thoose rotors also run at a higher opertating tempature due less mass, which means will they cool of faster they also reach high tempatures and that is not whan I want happening with my brakes. When you heat and cool something quickly this is what happens.



Now will this happen in daily driving? No, but take you car to and HPDE and by the end of the weekend that it is very possiable... oh wait you said cross-drilled powerstops right?



Oh read this one to http://www.teamscr.com/rotors.htm

Now for street driving and of course bling ther is nothing wrong with these rotors however saying that they make you stop better than standard rotors is misleading if you have not test your new cross drilled rotors agains new non-crossdrilled rotors, then you cannot make that statment... oh and you asked this when I said I never faded my stock brakes "but what about new pads, new c-d/s rotors, and new brake fluid?" Why would I want to spend more on money on something that is not going to give me any better performance. I can get new front rotors for under 25$ I can get new crossdrilled rotors for 125$, with no proff they actually do anything better. Also rally drivers and supposidly porsche's run cross drilled rotors because they perform better when they are wet, and for a rally driver thats a big thing.
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