Del Sol engine swap
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Originally Posted by gots_a_sol
an h22 swap is less than 50lbs heavier if i remember correctly compared to a c5...and if you upgrade the front suspension to match the added weight, it can handle just as good as it did before the swaps
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From: Charles Town, WV
All 3 Blocks are built with stock crank, forged rods, forged pistons, and iron sleeves done by benson (H22, D16) and darton (B16). I have a bensen'd B16 here as well but its already made the voyage to the engine stand so its not getting weighed. The only thing that is not fair in these pics is that the D has the oil pan on it... wasnt gonna take it off just for this BS.
H = 123lb short block
B = 104lb short block
D = 100lb short block + oil pan
So with totaly fair comparisons... the H is 19lb heavier in the short block.
NOW lets move on... the big word that I always hear is that its the H TRANS IS SOOOO HEAVY!!! Lets take a little peak here...
H trans = 96lb
B trans = 90lb
OK.. thats 6 lb... so we have a 25lb weight increase so far with the H22.
I will post here within a day or two as I weigh the assembled cylinder heads, as the H head is definatly heavier... but I would guess 10 lb heavier.
As for the rest of the crap... who cares. Intake manifolds are light for any motor and come in different flavors, same with headers and all that BS. Accessories are up to the owner of the car. Everything else hardly applies... flywheels are up to the user, axles, clutch, aluminum or steel oilpans, etc etc all this shit is up to the owner of the car so that crap doesnt need to be part of the comparison.
So what it comes down to is unless that H head is REALLY that much heavier... we are talking about
35 LB INCREASE!! Thats about how much weight off my ass I need to loose so I would be a hypocrite to be hard on the H.
H = 123lb short block
B = 104lb short block
D = 100lb short block + oil pan
So with totaly fair comparisons... the H is 19lb heavier in the short block.
NOW lets move on... the big word that I always hear is that its the H TRANS IS SOOOO HEAVY!!! Lets take a little peak here...
H trans = 96lb
B trans = 90lb
OK.. thats 6 lb... so we have a 25lb weight increase so far with the H22.
I will post here within a day or two as I weigh the assembled cylinder heads, as the H head is definatly heavier... but I would guess 10 lb heavier.
As for the rest of the crap... who cares. Intake manifolds are light for any motor and come in different flavors, same with headers and all that BS. Accessories are up to the owner of the car. Everything else hardly applies... flywheels are up to the user, axles, clutch, aluminum or steel oilpans, etc etc all this shit is up to the owner of the car so that crap doesnt need to be part of the comparison.
So what it comes down to is unless that H head is REALLY that much heavier... we are talking about
35 LB INCREASE!! Thats about how much weight off my ass I need to loose so I would be a hypocrite to be hard on the H.
ONE THING THAT I TOTALY FORGET but really needs to be known to make this fair is that my H22 DOES NOT have the balance shafts in it. I just weighed them and they weigh 8lbs.
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new player for engine swaps....
k-series
at the beginning of its developement in tuning, k-series putting down as much power with I/H/E as fully built b-series engines...its just so damn expensive
k-series
at the beginning of its developement in tuning, k-series putting down as much power with I/H/E as fully built b-series engines...its just so damn expensive
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Originally Posted by gots_a_sol
so we are at a 43lb difference...
Yes, the K series motors kick ass. They have soooooo much potential, it gets me hard thinking about it.
Do what must be done.
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From: Fountain Valley, CA
Ok lemme think out loud a little here...
-Ya figure, an H22 can fit into a del Sol with moderate work.
---An H22 fits into an Accord relatively easily.
-----Accords can come with a V6 engine...my mind is telling me F22 but I don't think that's it.
-------Think of the theoretical possibilities...
---------V6 del Sol anyone?
-Ya figure, an H22 can fit into a del Sol with moderate work.
---An H22 fits into an Accord relatively easily.
-----Accords can come with a V6 engine...my mind is telling me F22 but I don't think that's it.
-------Think of the theoretical possibilities...
---------V6 del Sol anyone?
lets get funk-a-fied
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From: San Antonio
i know this would be an insane custom job but, what about a flat 6 or 8 from a goldwing?? small liter but more cylinders?? i know F-1 cars are V-8's but only like 1.8 liters (i think), but they only last 500 miles and spin at 15,000 rpm. but i wonder if a flat-6 or a really small v-8 could be made for a del sol.......... more dreamin