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Old 11-13-2003, 08:43 AM
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Default What causes FWD to have less traction than RWD?

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and if RWD is better, then why doesnt Honda just make its cars RWD? Also, what is understeer/oversteer, and how does it pretain to FWD/RWD? Thanks.
Old 11-13-2003, 08:57 AM
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Well Don't know why honda makes its cars front wheel drive but what I do know is Most Common people prefer to have a front wheel drive car because of snow ! Much easyier to go going ! Umm in rain rear wheel drive you can not really step onit cause you can fish tail . hard to do that wiith a front wheel drive . Umm thats about all I know . LOL hope I help you a bit !


BUT WHY THEY MADE FRONT WHEEL DRIVE DON'T KNOW !
Old 11-13-2003, 09:18 AM
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Honda does make two rear wheel drive cars, the S2000 and the NSX. As Honura was saying FWD is primarily about driving in bad weather. It puts the weight of the engine over the drive wheels so there's more traction. Also FWD cars have more of a tendency to understeer because of the amount of weight put front. Understeer is when the car doesn't turn as much as you would like it to. Oversteer is the opposite, the car turns more than you want it to. Understeer is usually the safer of the two ways to lose control because the car will just go in a semi straight line so you at least you know where you're going to end up. Oversteer you pretty much don't know where you're going to end up.

Oversteer and understeer is dependent on a lot of things besides FWD/RWD like weight balance and suspension stiffness, and how the car is driven. Surprisingly, Corvettes have understeer tendencies, not oversteer tendencies. I would say RWD's primary advantage in racing is getting off the line and out of corners because when you mash the gas the car tends to nose up, transferring weight to the rear and adding traction to the drive wheels. Besides that I don't think there are that many advantages to RWD over FWD.
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Default Re: What causes FWD to have less traction than RWD?

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and if RWD is better, then why doesnt Honda just make its cars RWD? Also, what is understeer/oversteer, and how does it pretain to FWD/RWD? Thanks.
To answer the part about traction...RWD generally develops more traction due to the weight of the car shifting backwards during acceleration, thus putting more pressure on the rear tires
( = more grip). The opposite is true for FWD...when the weight shifts backwards, it takes weight off of the front wheels.
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Also understeer is safer in the hands of the regular populus. Oversteer is meant for performance cars.

A FWD car will pull you out of snow better than a RWD pushing you cause you to spin.
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Yeap it's about weight distribution also.

M5's - RWD, WIDE-Tires = sucks in snow.
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Old 11-13-2003, 10:07 AM
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Originally they made FWD to build an economic car. Cheaper to build (less moving parts) and easier on gas (again, less moving parts). No one took FWD racing seriously until the Type R. Now people realize the benfits of both FWD and RWD. If you want to see for yourself, the safest way to to go play Gran Turismo 3!
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FWD racing was serious waayy before the Type R, the Battle of the Imports was started in 1990.
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For the average driver FWD is safer in all weather conditions than RWD. That was one of the main reasons for the change. Nothing beats AWD though



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