Originally posted by ludeboom
1. you dont need to spend 12,000 to turn a civic into a 13 second car
2. explain why my engine (stock) beat my friends 93 "diamond star motors" talon tsi, with a removed boost restrictor from the BCS. 
the answer is that you are thinking on a level where you think racing a civic dx is a race
no offense but...
(oh sh*t my hyperflex kit just came)
too many people on both sides talk about racing hondas that really arent that fast. half these videos you download claim its an si when its really a dx, and thats why you see it getting stomped
you ask anybody who would win, a 5.0 or a prelude
guarantee majority would say 5.0
well i snuffed a 5.0 with at least exhaust mods just last night.
and i have a stock h22a1 muffler
btw, most GS-T's and Tsi's are finished by 120k
~boomer
well obviously, those POS DSM's fall apart probably sooner than 120K, but since we're not talking about value or looks either for that matter...
there are a couple reasons why you might have beat the tsi: bad launch/good launch, tires, tranny, his tuning setup (or lack thereof-how much boost was he running on what kind of turbo?) a million different variables really. not to say it wasn't a good kill...i mean we all decide to race in the end anyway because numbers aren't the whole story right?
the 5.0 i have no answer for. you should have been seeing brakelights
insofar as making Civics and Ludes, and Integras, and CR-V's and Accord Coupe's into drag racers, it's never made sense to me. Honda's never been a sheer power company, as is evidenced by the cars they build--they've always tried to hold their own in other arenas, whether it's reliability, affordability, palatable looks, or great handling* (like ludes or tegs). I'm not trying to cap on the guys here that do want 12 sec 1/4's, but it would have been alot easier if you went with another car co. from the start...like chevy, ford, or pontiac. It's still prob easier and cheaper now to get an s13/14 drop in an sr20det or rb25det and do some major dyno damage...but i digress...
*i wish honda would have made a full commitment to "handling" by giving us 'ludes with LSD...or RWD...