I didn't know anything about civic. I've learned alot here in the last 8 months. Knew what i wanted, but where i live there no chance to because everyone is into looks. I'm at the point of everyone doing swaps, i'm going to re-build my 1.5. Dump $4000 into it and tune it to get maybe 170-200 hp out of it. To me thats more of a achievement.