I read that Honda uses their global midsize platform for all accords and tl's. They use 3 different sizes tho, the smallest for the tsx/non US accord, medium is for US accord, and large for the TL. Reading all this about missing low end grunt when moving from 3 liter v6's to 4 bangers is making me question whether I really want a 2.2 CL over a J30. But I dont kno how long I can last without something more sporty, and manual. I think I'm still convinced that I want the CL with the h22a swaped in tho.