Originally posted by honda guy
even if you hav the red key and you loose all of the other keys you cant get a replacement made you have to replace the immobilizer unit and it comes with a new red key and a master key, because the red key is only a learning. And any dealor can access the vin inquiry and it won't point to anyone in perticular and they can get the brake code which is used to bypass the immobilizer, only key codes require a tech number and a social security number.
this is true. you need to replace the immobilizer (comes w/red key and new master key) if you:
1. lose the red key
2. lose all your other keys
3. use the red key to try and start the car (almost always but not every time)
4. the immobilizer unit fails for any reason.
any existing master/valet keys can be reprogrammed to the new immobilizer unit.
when i referred to requiring the DPSM and last four of SSN for getting access to a car, i was talking about the key code request, though i didn't make that very clear. previously, VIN status required both, and contained the key code. if you look at a recent VIN status request, there is (last i remember) a line for key code, but it is no longer filled in. VIN status is no longer traceable in the same way, although it is recorded as being placed by your IN username. since VIN status is performed by most service advisors when checking your car for existing campaign codes, there isn't much risk in running one.