Friend: the first time around it seems rather straightforward
ManinCamo: i thought it was a pandoras box of information
ManinCamo: my brain was working overtime when i was watching it
ManinCamo: I was like, well this could be this, or that, or that...
ManinCamo: like, i think their world outside of the matrix, is a matrix
munkeeboyee: i don't know if you're into the "matrix philosophy," but it's actually rather twisted
ManinCamo: so, the matrix is a matrix in a matrix
Friend: because of the end?
Friend: lol...nested matrices
Friend: that's what joe thinks too
ManinCamo: actually, i said that before i saw neo drop those machines
ManinCamo: about a minute before hand, i turned to my buddy and mentioned it
ManinCamo: then neo stopped the machines, i was like... damn, look at me now
Friend: nice...seeing it the second time challenged my conception of who were "good guys" and who were "bad guys"
ManinCamo: how so?
ManinCamo: like the prophet is bad?
Friend: i think it's a possibility that the agents and the merovengian (sp) were working for humanity
Friend: and yes...the oracle, the architect and definitely smith are bad
ManinCamo: how so? they kill the free'd humans
Friend: who? when?
ManinCamo: you said the agents aren't bad
ManinCamo: why aren't they bad?
Friend: they may not be bad
Friend: i don't really know...
Friend: you understand the true purpose of "the one," right?
ManinCamo: just an idea in your head?
ManinCamo: its the remainded of a ****ed up equation
ManinCamo: it makes the equation complete, and reboots the system
ManinCamo: no?
Friend: the purpose of the one (as neo is the 6th) is to destroy and rebuild zion
Friend: because the system is imperfect
ManinCamo: yea, i don't understand WHY Zion needs to constantly be destroyed
Friend: only 99% of individuals accept the program
Friend: as more and more are freed, there's an exponential increase for disaster
ManinCamo: ahh
Friend: so zion is destroyed and then rebuilt, because of that 1%
ManinCamo: too many errors
ManinCamo: could crash the whole system
Friend: so the purpose of the one is to keep people enslaved
ManinCamo: why don't the machines just trash all the humans, why leave 7?
Friend: so think about the individuals in the movie who help the one, and think about those who try to stop him
ManinCamo: hmmm
Friend: the ones who are helping him are trying to enslave humanity
ManinCamo: hence, the agents may not be bad
Friend: the ones trying to stop him may be trying to help those enslaved
Friend: *just a possibility
Friend: i had another thought today
ManinCamo: thats why i think that there coudl be 28934928389 more matrix (movies)
ManinCamo: ....*waiting for the other though*
Friend: that perhaps it's all set up like a quest...those working for and against neo are all actually working for him...giving him the appearance of trying to accomplish the lofty goal of saving his people
Friend: when in fact he's just propagating the slavery
Friend: just like the 5 before him
ManinCamo: intersting