Ok i lied about stopping Well yes 30 watts is 20% but doesn't it take mostly twice the power to make a 3db gain that is noticable but not blow yourself away huge? I don't know if that is the same for mids and highs actually i hope not cause i bought a new amp 85x4 instead of 50 watts form the phoenix gold. Anyways but isn't that generally accepeted for subs and I think thats what he is gonna run the bridged channel off right? Most people don't run multiple mids although the idea is cool I wouldn't mind but for me one pair is going to have to do for a while atleast. Lastley i think there will always be something better and i guess even "better" depends on who you talk to. I don't want anyone to think i don't like arc either. I was trying anyway to get a pair of 2050's in but it just wasn't in my budget. Both zapco and arc represent Modesto CA very well which is near where Im from origonally I guess thats part of it but i also think their products are awsome.