Standards are continually changing. Right now 200 is what you need to stay at the top of the pack, but lets not forget that horsepower isn't everything. What every turbocharged engine will have over Honda's 2.0L in the Type-R will have is torque, and lots of it. GM/Saturn/Dodge/Ford are all coming out with turbo'd compacts, and I think that Honda and the other Japanese manufacturers will have to follow suit. If not now, then within the next 2-3 years. Honda's turbocharged Civic Si would be pretty nice. Honda, being a big company, could probably use economies of scale to bring down the price of a turbo'd Si. In addition, to be competetive, they could probably make them limited in numbers and sell them at a loss. I'm pretty sure that Dodge sells Neon SRT-4s at a loss.