yeah 2200 is a rip but the only ls motors that i have seen that people have gotten them for 1500-1800 were not in the best shape cause ls motors that come for that cheap come from private dealer. they will send you pics of one thing and you will get another so in the end you still have to go scavange up some parts and end up spending the 2200. so if you want a reliable b18 with warranty i may add go with hmotorsonline they are very good people and give you a serious hookup.

3 examples we have bought a total of 5 motors from them. one had a bad tranny one had a bad ecu and another had a bad map sensor. we called them up told them and they shipped use new ones and those are all things that are hard to check for unless the motor is in the car which they are not when they get them. i feel the added security aka warranty is worth the little bit of extra cash. would you want to buy a motor for 1800 and have it have a bad tranny and then have to spend 600-800 for another one

true story my roomate bought and ls for 1800 the the starter is missing off of the motor which is 120 then the intermediate shaft is missing 150 then the alternator is missin 150. the guy never sent him the axles 150. all of this stuff was in the pictures that were sent to him but not on the motor when he got it. thats almost 500 or so more. 1800+500=2300 so far you are 100 over what hmotors cost and still not garunteed it starts.

when you are spending that amount of money especially on a limited buget like most of use are its hard to afford the shit you are not ready to because you though you were gonna get it.