because the dealer doesnt make that profit, doesnt mean the company doesn't.. i sell cars, i know exactly what its like to make profit, from the dealer standpoint to the manufacturer.. and i know that at any given week, a manufacturer can all of a sudden throw in another $1 -2,000 in rebates... i'm selling new jeeps at 10 grand below msrp.. which is about 7.5grand below dealer cost....

like the dude a few posts up said, they make profit... not that they dont deserve it, but imo its a little steep, and so i wouldnt give me business to them...

imo its dumb to by a new car.. no matter how low you get the price.. the manufaturer will always win... take this scenario... my buddy is looking into a luxury sedan.. a dude at his work's dad is a top dawg at a BMW warehouse back east.. they have 600 2002 5-series that were never sold, they're pumping these out at $25k a piece... come on now think about it... $25K for a car that stickers at base $37.6K, whats that, 12K right off the bat?? pls