HID's are a night and day difference from Halogen's. My windows are tinted 4% Madico Onyx Flat Black and my windshield is completely tinted down with Madico Onyx 28% flat black and with my Halogen's unless I was driving down a dark road you couldn't see any light output but with my HID's it's awesome. They illuminate everything.

And with the H4 bulbs with the reflective shield and my lights aligned corectly the beam pattern isn't bad at all. Of course having optics designed for HID's is 100% better because of the pattern and hot spots but this is a deffinate improvment no doubt about it.

I'm just looking for something a little whiter because with my 8000K's and my tints it just looks to blue for my taste. Everyone else loves them but I guess I'm never satisfied.