granted yes i do have a fake scoop. big deal.what is your point? at least stangs come with some balls. common 171 hp out of their 6? acura's 6's are already putting out 260. imo and this is just my opinoin that is too little too late. tib's are slow cars that just look fast. period. end of story. no flame to dakarM, i just used your quote from the other guy who posted above. :fawk: