the evo 8 hasn't been around long enough to know exactly....the gsx wasn't supposed to be as weak as it was either, but they are ridiculously weak......and the vr4s are the same way.....maybe the evo8 will be as advertised, but so far, mitsu has had the same basic problem.....trannies and even worse, trannies on awd cars.....that's from what i've seen over the past decade, not from a mag.....i'd still take an evo8 though...i like them, but i'd rather have a evo7....love their look