that first one you posted yeah like you said its just a type-r style grill for the 6th gen coupes, , the mesh really isnt that special, if its like the mesh on the type-r style grill i bought for my fifth gen its not really strong at all if thats what your lookin for. but when i custom made my second grill i used gutterguards, and that was a nice mesh and much stronger. So really if you just want to mesh your upper grill go with some gutter guard cause its cheaper. about that lower grill, i dunno, i never thought they really served a purpose or looked that great, but its up to you, you might be able to go the gutterguard route and save a few bucks.