I'd say just go with crutchfield. I'm waiting for the 9813 which crutchfield should ship in a few days. I tried autotoys.com and a few other random companies that "claimed" to have the unit I wanted in stock, only to find out a few weeks later they wouldn't receive them for a few more months. Oh, and I asked Circuit City when they expected to have the Alpines - sometime in late March, maybe even May. I don't really trust ebay either. My friend's brother bought some things and never received them, having lost $200. I'd say take the warranty and dependability of crutchfield.