so, while obviously the ls isn't going to be as fast as the b18c, for the price its worthwile, and when the money comes later, there's options for ls/vtec or boost. you see, i want to swap out my d16, and if i get the ls within the next few months, i will obviously have an improvement, and from there can go to vtec or run a boost. thanks guys, i think that is what i'm going to do.