when i dropped my car i had an alignment check, after the check, i knew how much camber was off and my toe..... for me it was around -1.75 degrees in the front.... so with the groupbuy thats currently going on i picked up the ingalls extreme front camber kit........ once i got that put on there, i had my car realigned and now i no longer have camber (little but not enough to make a difference)... dont know if that helps but thats my experiance, just had my allignment done tonight.