to diaboliks defense, my friend wanted a cheap system to tide her over until she could get something decent. she had $300 so we went to best buy...and that didnt even cover just the sub, box, amp, and wires. we totaled... cheapest possible (other then lightning audio) and it was $600 for everything. that was with 2 subs but still, its more then $500 and it was a crap ass system that wouldnt put out much bass or sound good for that matter. i told her to get about a grand saved up and then we would look into it some more.