See what I mea by opinions? I could tell you that I've had 4 Clarion and ALL had probs. I'll NEVER buy another Clarion I just don't BASH names. Back in the day I had the Clarion that would control a TV, VCP, up to 2 changer, etc preamp only and the damn radio would overheat, not from install, from factory, couldn't listen to a damn cd for over 20 minutes, that was a $600 radio. Like I said, do a lot of research, you want a reliable radio? Pioneer 6400 and up and great decks, don;t skip and work well for the money, JVC is also underrated, Kamelon sucks, but the other decks are nice, I rarely see a KDS 580 come back. I'm not a big Kenwood fan until you spend about $400 then I like OKAY. Pace yourself on $300-$500 for a NICE deck and you will be very happy, The new Pioneer 6500 just under $300 has f/r/s output, sub control, high pwr, clean display, etc.